Q do you want to win in Iraq?

[KakistocracyHater]

A Why haven't you already won, since WW2 was won in (roughly) the same amount of time that you've been running the fiasco in Iraq?

A What is your plan for victory in Iraq other than sloganeering?

[jannyk]

1. I have yet to hear anyone define what 'win' actually means. n/t

[Old and In the Way]

2. A Define winning.

Then I'll tell you if I want to win or not.

[Vinca]

3. We won the war ("Mission Accomplished"), let them work on the peace. nt

[melissinha]

4. I want Iraq to win

Not the terrorists, not "us" or any pathetic coalation. I want Iraq to be restored orimproved to the point that Iraqis can lead their daily lives...

Its not our country. I want for the best interests of all Iraqis to be met.

[Warren Stupidity]

5. Define win.

But my answer is no, we committed a war crime by invading Iraq without reason or provocation and our first obligation is to stop committing that crime by getting the heck out. After we get out we can discuss what 'win' might have meant.

[MGD]

6. Winning means a U.S puppet regime that will sell oil to us but not to China.

[Warren Stupidity]

7. Probably.

So, given that, heck no.

[Hosnon]

8. Of course. And I define win as leaving the country in no worse

a position than we found it.

Anything more would be a "better" win but I draw that line at gluing the broken plate back together.

[Totally Committed]

9. Win WHAT, exactly?

It's not our country, not our oil, not our business... now, it isn't even our war. We shouldn't even be there.

The time for "winning" was over when we stopped diplomacy and sent troops in.

TC

[LittleClarkie]

10. I want the Iraqis to win

I have no confidence that this administration knows how to make that happen, however.

[Senator]

11. A: Yes -- So let's impeach the losers and begin to try to win!

You see, it's not about "definitions."

And while answering with a question is better, it still only makes for a standoff.

You have to "move the game" to a place where they are on the defensive.

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[mentalsolstice]

12. I Posted This To Blog Back in Oct.

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What would define a victory in Iraq? Will our leaders know if they have won? Will a victory involve ticker-tape parades and sailors kissing strange women in the street? How about some high-fiving and butt-slapping? I'm sorry, but if this is what BushCo envisions, they're seriously delusional.

What if you were against the war before it even started? Because I am, and always have been, against this war, I have a difficult time even defining what a victory would be in my mind. How can you be for an outcome, if you were against the action? What if you have begun to doubt the wisdom of the action in hindsight? If so, what do you perceive to be an acceptable outcome? Is it the same as when you first supported the action?

I do not want a victory in Iraq. In my mind, such a concept isn't even applicable in this situation. My version of an acceptable outcome has our soldiers home safely, and the rest of the mid-east dealing with the Iraqi government the best way they see fit.

But then again, wasn't this pretty much the situation before the U.S. invaded? Someone needs to stop the dog from chasing its tail. It looks foolish to the rest of the world.

[joeldm]

13. WWII was not an insurgency, I'm not sure this can be won

Once the Germans and Japanese were defeated they didn't go into the hills and continue to resist. that's the biggest difference I see.

JoeL

[ncrainbowgrrl]

14. Welcome to DU, joeldm!

:hi: