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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 04:54 AM
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Saddam gets Death - Justice Prevails, but
The killings he is being put to death for happened back in the early 80's when he was our man in the region. But no one seemed to be very concerned about it back then. In fact, we thought he was such a good guy that Don Rumsfeld flew over there to shake his hand.

So what changed? Oh I get it, now that we are officially a Christian I guess we must just be more moral these days. Yeah, that's it.
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Sad4world Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:07 AM
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1. Shrub's sadistic imperialism
will end up killing more Iraq's than Saddam would have.
So who should go on trial next??
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:09 AM
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2. He murdered a bunch of people
Do we really have to go through a slew of Saddam-apologist threads. :eyes:
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:11 AM
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3. Yeah, he did
So why didn't we do anything about it then?

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:15 AM
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4. One is separate from the other
The horrors of the Reagan Administration are an issue. But it's got nothing to do with Saddam being found guilty for murders now. Saddam Hussein is NOT a victim, he does NOT deserve anybody's sympathy, empathy or support.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:19 AM
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5. And no one is saying he does, I am just asking a question,
which so far you are avoiding answering.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:25 AM
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6. The answer is obvious
Reagan and Poppy are militaristic bastards. So what else is new?
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:26 AM
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7. Hon, I don't think you understand the question so why don't
you let someone else answer it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 05:41 AM
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8. Because I won't blow smoke up your ass?
A. He murdered a bunch of people. B. Congress DID try to do something about it. C. Reagan and Poppy didn't because they're power hungry bastards who were after control of the oil then, just like they are now.

What did I miss?
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 06:12 AM
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9. Perhaps the fact that the trial itself was a charade with a
predetermined verdict? Participation in kangaroo courts are nothing for us to be proud of and to call it rule of law is pretty silly.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 06:20 AM
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10. Should have had a kangaroo court in the 80's?
:shrug:

Should have had a Ba'athist judge try him?

The whole thing is stupid. Saddam is guilty and the entire world knows he's guilty. There isn't any other verdict ANY court could have come up with.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 06:39 AM
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12. I'm not saying he was innocent. He wasn't.
He did horrendous things. That doesn't justify convening a kangaroo court with a predetermined sentence. Let's be honest, Saddam was never going to put in a small cell somewhere, deprived of his nice clothes and lavish lifestyle for the rest of his life. Death was the predetermined goal. So instead of letting him fade from public view and memory in prison, we're creating what one faction of the Iraqi citizenry will see as a martyr.

That's not the way to repair Iraq. ...We are there to repair Iraq and make a democracy, right? At least I think that was our most recent goal.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 06:50 AM
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14. At least I think that was our most recent goal.
Oop, you might want to hold off on that call until the Monday update comes out.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 07:15 AM
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15. In your own words
You say he wasn't innocent and did horrendous things. So what other verdict and sentence could there possibly be??? I don't approve of the death penalty, but I don't make the laws here or in Iraq. Some will like the death penalty, some won't. It's just the way it is. It's nothing unusual or peculiar or anything else. Trials with overwhelming evidence are foregone conclusions, along with the sentences, all the time.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 07:21 AM
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16. Did you not read my post?
Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 07:22 AM by cornermouse
Drop him in a dark cell somewhere without visitors (including family) and deprived of all the luxuries (clothes, food, servants, entertainment) which he became accustomed to until the Iraqis who supported him have forgotten his existence. For Saddam that would be a fate worse than death and fitting.

Creation of a martyr via death is never a smart move.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 06:22 AM
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11. Sorry: no justice, his trial was a joke.
Justice did not prevail. Rule of law did not prevail.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 06:46 AM
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13. my gut reaction is that this is a dog and pony show
to justify BushCo's invasion of Iraq - which, of course, it does not - but Sunday and Monday will be an execution festival leading into the election, just as they intended.
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