luckyleftyme2
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Sun Nov-05-06 06:55 PM
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TED HAGGARD ADMITS HE'S GAY |
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the new york times has stated that "ted haggard" has admitted he's lied and deceived his whole adult life. What the game plan should be now is to see who helped him into his office of president of the church. A good reporter ought to be able to do this in less than a week! I'll bet some familiar names will come up. lets push this one-this is big time! VOTE DEMOCRAT -RUN THE BUMS OUT! LETS CUT THE DEADWOOD OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT=VOTE DEMOCRAT!
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Sun Nov-05-06 07:00 PM
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I hope he finds himself and reaches acceptance with himself. Sure the hypocrisy is upsetting, but at the same time he's a human and I hope he comes to accept himself as he is.
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Sun Nov-05-06 07:22 PM
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9. its the lying, using and hypocrisy that i find it hard to forgive. |
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i could care less if hes gay or straight.
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Sun Nov-05-06 07:00 PM
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2. and who let this liar in the White WhoreHouse? |
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Sun Nov-05-06 07:02 PM
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3. Your headline is inaccurate... |
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Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 07:03 PM by hippiechick
... he didn't admit that he's gay, he admitted being a liar and a deceiver and "battling feelings contrary to his teachings" ... but he did NOT out himself. http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4607865
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Sun Nov-05-06 07:19 PM
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I doubt Haggard would ever actually admit he's gay.
In his eyes, all of his repressed gay urges were/are just the Devil trying to tempt him into sin. He's not gay, since gays are willfully living in sin; he's a perfectly normal heterosexual male who was unable to overcome satanic temptation.
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Sun Nov-05-06 07:03 PM
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4. This makes my blood boil |
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excuse my language but closet case fags like this make me want to fucking puke. SOme closet case assholes like this take it upon themselves to make money off of creating hysteria about gays when they themselves are gay. Not only has he fought to deny me equal treatment under the law but he has ruined the life of his wife and children and put his wife in a very dangerous situation. My partner and I always have to worry about who we can tell that we are gay, what we should say at work, buying a new home was a nightmare ect. all because of assholes like this. Think of all the gay children of his church members who went into depression or killed themselves because of what this asshole filled their parents heads with. I hope he contracted a deadly STD that puts him through a lot of pain.
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Sun Nov-05-06 09:14 PM
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13. You profess concern about his wife and yet |
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you also hope he contracted a deadly STD. Nice.
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Sun Nov-05-06 07:08 PM
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5. maybe he will go to one of those ex-gay churches where they will bleed |
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his bank account dry in the name of the "cure".
funny how those places all charge big bucks when they should be doing it for free in the name of their gods.
oh well, its all about the cash.
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Sun Nov-05-06 07:11 PM
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6. Wonder if he's still 'happily' married? |
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Sun Nov-05-06 07:16 PM
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7. I wonder if he was EVER happily married. |
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Sun Nov-05-06 07:54 PM
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10. I wonder what method they used to make all of those babies? n/t |
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Sun Nov-05-06 09:17 PM
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He probably just imagined he was with a guy.
FYI, lots of gay men have fathered multiple children.
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Mon Nov-06-06 12:55 AM
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Mon Nov-06-06 01:45 AM
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18. I'm on a list-serve with their children. |
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Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 01:51 AM by pnwmom
I have a bunch of siblings, too.
My father came out and moved in with his partner in the 80's, but lots of gay men and lesbians got married to straight people decades ago and haven't managed to come out yet.
Or they came out when their kids were in their teens or twenties, even older. It's not an easy thing for the kids to deal with, because they were usually raised to believe that homosexuality was wrong -- and all of a sudden one of their parents comes out and says "here I am -- the real me!" (And "p.s., forget everything I taught you.")
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Sun Nov-05-06 07:57 PM
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11. Your point makes more sense than mine does. |
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Sun Nov-05-06 08:15 PM
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12. No he didn't; he admitted he's had sex with men. |
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Edited on Sun Nov-05-06 08:17 PM by smalll
Don't jump to the conclusion that Haggard "is gay."
Look at it this way: just because we know that Haggard has a taste for meth, do we assume that he never enjoyed getting drunk?
He could be gay. I think it is probably even more likely that he just swings both ways. We've all heard that sexuality is a spectrum, and it's actually true. And if you look at the history of sexuality across various times, cultures and places, what you find is that male bisexuality is pretty common. This modern day "straight"/"gay" dichotomy is pretty unusual.
For various reasons, however, in today's pretty liberated sexual atmosphere in the USA, there remains one major taboo for men - sexualitiy with other men. So basically every "straight" guy has to pretend that he has never had any homosexual urges or thoughts, and that anyone who does is 100% playing-for-the-other-team, off-the-reservation GAY.
There is a massive swath of repressed male bisexuality just under the surface. Explain "wrestling" on TV for one thing. I'll tell you this: in my opinion, all the supposed hot-girl "bisexuality" out there (meaning young women getting drunk and making out with each other to get the attention of guys who have been trained to cheer that on by contemporary pornography) is pretty fake. Men are horny however, and some men (like Haggard) get it, it seems, however and wherever they can. I figure once they come up with a vaccine for HIV, everything will come out in the wash and everyone will stop pretending.
Am I totally off here?
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Sun Nov-05-06 09:19 PM
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15. As I recall, he founded the church. |
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It started out very small, like a lot of fundie churches.
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Sun Nov-05-06 09:48 PM
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16. Oooh....he's gay! Oh no! |
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