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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 07:34 PM
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Just a thought: Could Karl Rove win a race from the center...
without the tactics that have served him so well his entire career? Could he run a campaign that was not based on division, fear, prejudice, and greed? Could he run a campaign within the norm of American politics, without "dirty tricks" and extralegal tactics? Could he run a campaign without the foot soldiers of the "religious" Right and the remnants of the Old Confederacy?

Is he a political genius for the ages, or just, in Bush's words, Turd Blossom?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 07:36 PM
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1. They don't have a single positive issue
there is no center in republican party... only far right extremes.
It's tipping over.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 07:38 PM
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2. The ONLY way they would even try to win, would be by cheating
They don't know how to do it any other way. They know their policies are hugely unpopular, which is why they always give them phony orwellian names.

If x% of people voted for * and not Kerry because of the Swifboat ads, does that mean * got those votes fairly?
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 07:45 PM
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3. True. In national polls, their policies have never come up with a majority. nt
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 07:52 PM
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4. Rove could but it misses the point
A small group of people control things and the only way they can keep power is to divide the majority.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 08:04 PM
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5. No. But He Can MAKE The MSM SAY It's The Center

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 08:29 PM
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6. Good point! nt
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 08:30 PM
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7. imo no, he took a page from Lee Atwater--take their strengths and turn them
against them. Divisive politics is what Karl does.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 08:33 PM
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8. Center of what?
They have no ideology, except getting elected. With the media in his pocket, he's nearly invincible.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-05-06 08:53 PM
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9. In 2000 he tried to make it appear as if Bush was a centrist
You were hearing the phrase "compassionate conservative" tossed around a lot and most of the extreme views were well hidden from the public. Of course we all know that in reality Bush lost that election, Rove managed to make it appear as if he had won to people who were not paying attention.

Even in 2004 when everyone should have known Bush was an extremist, Rove played the Republican National Committee as if it were a gathering of moderates with their most extreme leaders hidden from the public view. While even "moderate" Republicans are very extreme, Rove has gone to great lengths to try to make it appear to the casual observer that they are really just ordinary people who share the values of America.

We all know Rove runs his campaigns on deception, and that is how he has been able to push a far right agenda to a public which is actually quite progressive on many issues for so long before the people finally woke up over the past year or so.
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