NPR: "Republicans are making strong gains!"

[PSPS]

Yes, that's how they're spining the Pew poll. This is the same game they played, most recently, in Mexico:

1. Condition the public

2. Set the stage with talk of "strong gains" in the last few hours

3. On election day, meter out the results selectively, obscuring the effect of the fraud, so as to show the republicans winning "just barely."

Voila! Yet another bush "man-date!"

>>> EVERYONE MUST VOTE. IT'S THE ONLY CHANCE TO OVERCOME THE FRAUD <<<

[whistle]

1. Come on people....the struggle continues

[depakid]

2. National Propaganda Radio

Has been spinning for Republicans for years- which I why I don't listen to NPR anymore.

[mac56]

3. This is predictable and also okay.

Predictable, because the MSM wants - nay, needs - a horse race. Including NPR. So they'll make it out to be one regardless.

Okay, because we need to act as if we're behind.

C'mon. We all knew this is gonna be close.

[Doctor_J]

4. They're making gains in every poll

The Big Media have managed to cover up Foley, Haggard, Hastert, the Iraq death toll, and many other GOP disasters, but the polls they're reporting on are true, nevertheless.

[smalll]

5. Stop the Madness.

Those who make the implausible claim that Rove and company stole the 2004 election electronically and that they will steal the 2006 election as well only intensify the implausibility by asserting that the vast conspiracy ALSO includes the polling organizations and major media outlets, used by Darth Rove to set the stage for the theft.

[keopeli]

6. Polls are private endevours controlled by very few people who are wealthy

making them much easier to manipulate. Some polls are more blatant in their bias than others.

If you don't believe major media is involved in helping the government, then you must have been asleep during the run up to the Iraq War.

I've said from the beginning to be ready for anything, including a complete loss.

Your use of the word "implausible" is intriguing. So, you think it's possible, just not plausible - but you call those who assert this possibility "conspiracy" theorists? How does that make sense?

Why are you so sure that Rove and the Republicans were on the up-and-up in 04? Have you not read and seen and heard the abundance of evidence to the contrary? And what makes you so certain no forces are being brought to bear on this election as well? Blind faith?

There's an abundance of information in the DU Research Forum if you want to do some catching-up.

Welcome to DU, smalll!

[smalll]

7. Well, I thank you for your tolerant and reasonable response

when my post was a little hard. Thanks for the welcome! Long-time lurker here, just started posting now and then.

[dchill]

9. YOU need to get a clue...

nevertheless, welcome to DU. There is much to learn here.

[Glorfindel]

12. vast conspiracy ALSO includes the polling organizations and major media outlets

well, of course it does. If it didn't, it would only be a half-vast conspiracy. :rofl:

[smalll]

16. As I see it, if Rove and the Republicans alone were able to

steal the 2004 election by 1)stealing Ohio (as well as KNOWING that Ohio was the state they had to steal - as we headed into the home stretch in 2004, it really wasn't certain that Ohio was going to be the key state up until the last week or so) and 2)"running up the score" across the country (the "red shift" I think they call it) to produce the 2.5 million or so majority of the popular vote that Bush won - well THAT IN ITSELF would be pretty "vast." Rather too vast a conspiracy to be plausible in my opinion. Adding on the pollsters and the media is just way too much.

If we wake up on Wednesday with the Democrats in control of the House, and perhaps even of the Senate, many people here will have a doozy of a psychological process to go through. Forget the 5 stages of grieving and all that. People will be able to celebrate real VICTORY for the first time in so long, how sweet it will be, but at the exact same moment will have to come to terms with the fact that Bush actually won in 2004.

That's just my feeling. He won, he did. Blame Zell Miller, blame gay marriage, blame John Kerry, the Swiftboaters, the last-minute Osama tape, blame them all together (which I think is right.) Blame the fact that 2004 was still only 3 years after 9/11 and only one short year after the beginning of the Iraq War, when it was NOT clear to everyone that it would end up a total failure. The bastard pulled it off. He chuckled and smirked his way to victory.

But you can't fool ALL of the people ALL of the time, and on Wednesday, we'll see that America finally, finally STOPPED BEING FOOLED! Better late than never!

[David__77]

8. They did this in reverse in 1994 too, don't forget.

They said there was a late Democratic surge - didn't happen.

[dchill]

10. " - didn't happen."

that we know of.

[David__77]

11. If it did..

...it only forestalled even worse losses for the Democrats. That's my point.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

13. Huh?

Things have been looking bleak for the GOP nearly every day of every week of every month for this entire year, yet somehow we are now being told that GOP may eke out yet another victory and that the Democrats will once again "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory"? And what explanation do the people who are publishing these new polls have for the Republican's new "surprising" gains? Last I looked, Bush is still President, we're still hopelessly stuck in Iraq, the economy is stuck in the same rut that it has been since 2001 for most people, and lots of Republicans this year have become targets and/or victims of investigations into their illegal and/or unethical activities. Pretty much all of the news has been bad news for the Republicans (and good for the Democrats) during the last 1-2 years and yet we are now to believe that, despite all of it, they may get returned to the levers of power on Tuesday? I'm not buying it! :wtf:

[LaCrosseDem]

14. Sigh. people get the government they deserve.

So tell me again why I should work for Democrats? Have the past three elections, and they have managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet again. Thank you very much John Kerry. But, at least I've got tuesday to get some yardwork done now.

[mac56]

15. Welcome to DU.

So if that's how you feel, tell us what keeps you here?

[LaCrosseDem]

17. I guess hope has kept me here.

I have worked my ass off. Again. I'm just emotionally spent. In Wisconsin we have an anti-gay marriage ban on the ballot. With a toddler and a newborn, my wife and I have put in probably 20 nights combined on this election cycle. And now this. I am exhausted and becoming depressed. I could have spent those nights with my children and gotten this same result.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

18. Don't give up yet!

This "news" may be getting put out there to try and demoralize us and depress the Democratic vote. No matter what, we all need to keep going and GOTV on Tuesday to make sure that the Democrats win at least the House. Winning the Senate AND the House on Tuesday may not happen but every poll out there has us at least picking up the House, which should definitely be good for us because at least then Bush wouldn't be able to continue to ram his agenda through Congress for the next (last) two years of his so-called Presidency and we'll have a springboard for pushing our agenda in 2008. Keep the faith!

[LaCrosseDem]

19. Thanks. But,

after all of the hours and dollars my wife and I have spent on this campaign, just to see the race swing to the Republicans at the end, it will be all I can do just to get to the polls myself.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

20. Polls say whatever some people want them to say

50% of all people could tell you that. Some members of the "not-so-liberal media" have a vested interest in keeping the GOP in power indefinitely and are not above cooking or spinning poll numbers so as to "depress" the opposition and turnout thereof. I think I can understand your frustration and concern. I was absolutely "crestfallen" when Kerry conceded to Bush in 2004 when I was so sure that Bush was going to lose. However, I have a hard time believing that the GOP is going to suddenly and inexplicably rebound during this election to the degree suggested by the aforementioned NPR poll. With all of the bad press and publicity that the GOP has gotten this year along with the ongoing disaster in Iraq, I can't fathom the GOP remaining in total control after Tuesday. If I'm wrong, may God have mercy our souls.

[LaCrosseDem]

22. Mercy indeed.

If the Republicans hadn't taken over the whole of Christianity I might actually re-join my former church.

[Contrary1]

21. Newsweek says: GOP has lost more ground

So, I am trumping the PU's poll with Newsweek's.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15557264/site/newsweek/

[Tesha]

23. Nothing but Propaganda for Republicans

The RNC must send them boxes of kneepads weekly.

Cokie: "Oh, Mr. Republican, you have such a big poll!" :puke:

Wall Street Journal reporter: "Democratic propaganda" (actual quote!)

Tesha

[sendero]

24. I heard the interview..

... this AM with the guy who's waiting for his testicles to descend.

The whole interview was orchestrated to make their point, but there is one point they carefully avoided making. Evangelicals only comprise 30-something percent of the vote. They are hardly an insurmountable force.

[sendero]

25. For anyone here still sending $$$ to NPR..

.. what the hell are you thinking? They are blatant in their RW spin. They will bring out the best propagandists for the right, and the left never gets a word in edgewise.

NPR sucks, they are nothing more than an in-depth version of Fox News (except the weekend shows).

[Eurobabe]

26. Only if they are tampering with electronic machinery

n/t