Which is it: was Kerry's response effective or the RW smear ineffective?

[ProSense]

The media decided to drown out damning news about Iraq with a BS smear on Kerry, a smear that most people didn't buy into. As this polls shows, only the opportunists and Republican supporters did:




People who didn't buy into it:

78% of all voters
62% of Republicans
93% of Democrats (and 8%-11% of Democrats voted for Bush in the past two elections)
79% of Independents

From CNN this morning:

Democrats hold a 20 percentage-point advantage -- 58 percent to 38 percent -- over Republicans among likely voters in the survey released Monday morning. The Democratic advantage was 11 percentage points -- 53 percent to 42 percent -- in a poll a week ago.

Ford is up in the polls

The pundits continue to use the media to create the perception that something is more popuplar than it is. It's like the call for withdrawal, they kept insisting, and now are ignoring that the majority want a timetable for withdrawal. Why aren't they writing stories about that everyday? Why aren't they drowning out the Bush administration's noise with the calls from the majority of the public.

So which is it?

[Avalux]

1. Pat Buchanan this morning - lol!

He claims Kerry's gaffe reminded everyone in the country that Democrats are anti-military and that's why Republicans are gaining steam. :rofl:

[MH1]

9. Laugh if you want...

but that narrative is exactly why it was so damaging - to the Democratic Party - for some high-profile Dems to jump on the right-wing smear machine bandwagon.

[blm]

2. GOPs cornered the market on Feign-Feign.

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[still_one]

3. Kerry is irrelevent at this point in time

and frankly even though Kerry got a raw deal, he effectively has taken himself out of a run in 2008

[David__77]

5. I don't think it was so much a raw deal.

It was not smart. I agree with the sentiment, regardless of construed intentm, but we need to be able to trust people in positions of public exposure to handle themselves in an agile fashion. He does not fulfill that need and is easy prey for that reason alone.

[blm]

7. His response was VERY AGILE and eviscerated the LIARS - ENDORSING The lie

is not clear thinking or agile, and the Dems who did showed poor judgement. You cannot FEAR the RW lie machine, you have to EXPOSE the liars.

His remarks also spawned MANY articles and commentaries that BLISTERED Bush and his lie machine in the media.

A bottle of Feign-Feign is available at Bill Maher's site.

[elocs]

12. Agreed. I think Kerry is pretty much done for 08, but who knows? n/t

[madrchsod]

4. i said it as soon as i read it here

much to do about nothing....i`m still waiting for the "October Surprise"

[sampsonblk]

6. This post is spin-nt

nt

[wisteria]

8. I think most people understood why Kerry reacted the way he did.

I can't speak for others, but I would see no sense in apologizing for something I didn't say.I would want to defend myself too.

[Sensitivity]

10. Kerry is too good and honorable a man for modern American politics

This is a new world of slime, slease and gotcha. Especially under the
Repukes.

It is hard to imagine a real person who does not have flaws that could
be viciously exploited by the slime masters.

And only an controled autonotom could campaign night and day without some verbal slip.

So, it is clear that the Democrats don't want someone like Kerry, who is
not even fully subservient to the party line.

[democrat_patriot]

11. According to my Dad: "The liberal media dropped the story"

It's so fun when they visit.

[troublemaker]

13. Both. It was very effective but short-lived

[mtnsnake]

14. What really matters is what an Iraqi citizen said this morning on CNN when

asked by a reporter who he hoped would win the American elections tomorrow. The Iraqi man said, and I'm paraphrasing, "I hope Kerry wins because he's better than Bush. Bush has destroyed Iraq." Apparently, this man thought Kerry and Bush were running again, but his point was well made. Another Iraqi man told the CNN reporter that he didn't care who won the elections, whether it's the Democrats or Republicans, but that he only wanted whoever won to do Iraq a big favor and take all the Americans out of his country immediately.

[wisteria]

15. OMG, out of the mouths of innocents. n/t