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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 04:52 PM
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Now CLINTON tells a joke
Maryland (00:36)


http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/06/slamming-the-republican-campaign-strategy-as-only-clinton-can/

Summary

Clinton sums up the Republican campaign

"You have to vote for us (Republicans) because our opponents are no good...and because they will tax you into the poorhouse and on the way to the poorhouse you will meet a terrorist on every street corner and when you try to run away from the terrorists you will trip over an illegal alien"

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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 04:53 PM
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1. Damn!
He forgot the part about how you won't have a gun to protect yourself!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:12 PM
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42. Or that you'll be forced to have an abortion - OR turn GAY!!!!
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 11:13 PM by calimary
Yeah. That's the ticket! Vote republi-CON or you're gonna TURN GAY!!!!!!! And then you're gonna be sodomized by Osama bin Laden before he kills you!!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Fuckers. OUR guys tell the jokes. THEIR guys are the butt of them. Or just plain - they're the butt. Period. Putting it delicately.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 04:58 PM
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2. One big difference.
President Clinton pulled it off!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 04:59 PM
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4. ~
(whistles :eyes: :o ... just lets that one pass by.... whistles..... :eyes: :o )
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 09:18 PM
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29. Hah!
I missed that one at first! But your letting that one pass by allowed me to catch it! Hee hee.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:24 PM
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11. Sure - because he's very entertaining - that's a certainty.
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 05:30 PM by blm
And all the entertainment in the world is never going to open the books on BushInc.

I also wish he would have devoted even some of his starpower to elect Lamont. But he won't.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:57 PM
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15. I would say more charismatic than entertaining.
And we know some people on a scale of 1 to 10 are a 0 when it comes to charisma.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:31 PM
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16. And there are some with 10 charisma and 0 balls to open the books on BushInc.
BTW - Not all hot women fall for loveguy schtick. Some are even repelled by it, though appreciate its effect on the larger population.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:33 PM
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17. Yep and the one who can't tell a joke so far is rating 0's across the board!
:rofl:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:37 PM
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19. Not according to the National Security Archives.
And maybe serious people who have taken on very serious battles and burdens for this country, don't crack jokes to your liking, but what ends up in the National Security Archives and in the congressional record will live on for generations.

And so will the brilliantly crafted, CAREFULLY crafted and superbly executed sentence, "Depends on what the meaning of the word is is."
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:40 PM
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20. And History will remember one as a President.
and the other one as a wannabe.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:48 PM
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22. I'm happy you can find comfort in your preferred part of the party.
Hopefully, the anti-corruption, open government wing of the party will someday find as much to enjoy about this country's governance as you do.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:53 PM
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23. I find complete comfort in President Bill Clinton.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:00 PM
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24. Good.
I'll let some families know.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:00 PM
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25. Thank you. You do that.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:16 PM
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26. You're welcome.
Hey, Democrats, the Truth Matters!
By Robert Parry
May 11, 2006

My book, Secrecy & Privilege, opens with a scene in spring 1994 when a guest at a White House social event asks Bill Clinton why his administration didn’t pursue unresolved scandals from the Reagan-Bush era, such as the Iraqgate secret support for Saddam Hussein’s government and clandestine arms shipments to Iran.

Clinton responds to the questions from the guest, documentary filmmaker Stuart Sender, by saying, in effect, that those historical questions had to take a back seat to Clinton’s domestic agenda and his desire for greater bipartisanship with the Republicans.

Clinton “didn’t feel that it was a good idea to pursue these investigations because he was going to have to work with these people,” Sender told me in an interview. “He was going to try to work with these guys, compromise, build working relationships.”

Clinton’s relatively low regard for the value of truth and accountability is relevant again today because other centrist Democrats are urging their party to give George W. Bush’s administration a similar pass if the Democrats win one or both houses of Congress.

Reporting about a booklet issued by the Progressive Policy Institute, a think tank of the Democratic Leadership Council, the Washington Post wrote, “these centrist Democrats … warned against calls to launch investigations into past administration decisions if Democrats gain control of the House or Senate in the November elections.”

These Democrats also called on the party to reject its “non-interventionist left” wing, which opposed the Iraq War and which wants Bush held accountable for the deceptions that surrounded it.

“Many of us are disturbed by the calls for investigations or even impeachment as the defining vision for our party for what we would do if we get back into office,” said pollster Jeremy Rosner, calling such an approach backward-looking.

Yet, before Democrats endorse the DLC’s don’t-look-back advice, they might want to examine the consequences of Clinton’s decision in 1993-94 to help the Republicans sweep the Reagan-Bush scandals under the rug. Most of what Clinton hoped for – bipartisanship and support for his domestic policies – never materialized.

‘Politicized’ CIA

After winning Election 1992, Clinton also rebuffed appeals from members of the U.S. intelligence community to reverse the Reagan-Bush “politicization” of the CIA’s analytical division by rebuilding the ethos of objective analysis even when it goes against a President’s desires.

Instead, in another accommodating gesture, Clinton gave the CIA director’s job to right-wing Democrat, James Woolsey, who had close ties to the Reagan-Bush administration and especially to its neoconservatives.

One senior Democrat told me Clinton picked Woolsey as a reward to the neocon-leaning editors of the New Republic for backing Clinton in Election 1992.

“I told that the New Republic hadn’t brought them enough votes to win a single precinct,” the senior Democrat said. “But they kept saying that they owed this to the editors of the New Republic.”

During his tenure at the CIA, Woolsey did next to nothing to address the CIA’s “politicization” issue, intelligence analysts said. Woolsey also never gained Clinton’s confidence and – after several CIA scandals – was out of the job by January 1995.

At the time of that White House chat with Stuart Sender, Clinton thought that his see-no-evil approach toward the Reagan-Bush era would give him an edge in fulfilling his campaign promise to “focus like a laser beam” on the economy.

He was taking on other major domestic challenges, too, like cutting the federal deficit and pushing a national health insurance plan developed by First Lady Hillary Clinton.

So for Clinton, learning the truth about controversial deals between the Reagan-Bush crowd and the autocratic governments of Iraq and Iran just wasn’t on the White House radar screen. Clinton also wanted to grant President George H.W. Bush a gracious exit.

“I wanted the country to be more united, not more divided,” Clinton explained in his 2004 memoir, My Life. “President Bush had given decades of service to our country, and I thought we should allow him to retire in peace, leaving the (Iran-Contra) matter between him and his conscience.”

Unexpected Results

Clinton’s generosity to George H.W. Bush and the Republicans, of course, didn’t turn out as he had hoped. Instead of bipartisanship and reciprocity, he was confronted with eight years of unrelenting GOP hostility, attacks on both his programs and his personal reputation.

Later, as tensions grew in the Middle East, the American people and even U.S. policymakers were flying partially blind, denied anything close to the full truth about the history of clandestine relationships between the Reagan-Bush team and hostile nations in the Middle East.

Clinton’s failure to expose that real history also led indirectly to the restoration of Bush Family control of the White House in 2001. Despite George W. Bush’s inexperience as a national leader, he drew support from many Americans who remembered his father’s presidency fondly.

If the full story of George H.W. Bush’s role in secret deals with Iraq and Iran had ever been made public, the Bush Family’s reputation would have been damaged to such a degree that George W. Bush’s candidacy would not have been conceivable.

Not only did Clinton inadvertently clear the way for the Bush restoration, but the Right’s political ascendancy wiped away much of the Clinton legacy, including a balanced federal budget and progress on income inequality. A poorly informed American public also was easily misled on what to do about U.S. relations with Iraq and Iran.

In retrospect, Clinton’s tolerance of Reagan-Bush cover-ups was a lose-lose-lose – the public was denied information it needed to understand dangerous complexities in the Middle East, George W. Bush built his presidential ambitions on the nation’s fuzzy memories of his dad, and Republicans got to enact a conservative agenda.

Clinton’s approach also reflected a lack of appreciation for the importance of truth in a democratic Republic. If the American people are expected to do their part in making sure democracy works, they need to be given at least a chance of being an informed electorate.

Yet, Clinton – and now some pro-Iraq War Democrats – view truth as an expendable trade-off when measured against political tactics or government policies. In reality, accurate information about important events is the lifeblood of democracy.

Though sometimes the truth can hurt, Clinton and the Democrats should understand that covering up the truth can hurt even more. As Clinton’s folly with the Reagan-Bush scandals should have taught, the Democrats may hurt themselves worst of all when helping the Republicans cover up the truth.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:20 PM
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28. My response to that is simple.
If Bill Clinton could run again, I would vote for him again.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 09:23 PM
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30. But he's not. So loyalty is not needed. You have the luxury to choose honesty
so the American people can be respected as citizens - informed citizens.

I would vote for Clinton again if he COULD run, because 9-11 probably has taught him how important tuth has become for this country, but he can't. So, I choose to support an open government that respects its people as citizens who NEED real information to advise their serious decisions.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:14 PM
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32. I choose to support somebody
With the ideology of Bill Clinton.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:21 PM
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33. Oops - so sorry. Never realized you believed in closed government.
I hope you weren't too put out by aggressive desire for informed citizenship and do see that there should be room for open government Democrats, too.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:25 PM
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34. I'm sorry your disdain for President Clinton
Won't permit you to...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:43 PM
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37. I like Clinton - I hate that he closed important matters that needed sunshine.
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 10:45 PM by blm
But once he made that decision, he could never go back, as by then he became part of the coverup and had no choices but to close the books on those matters. Matters that led to events like his impeachment and Bush's rise to the presidency and to 9-11 and the Iraq war, and in retrospect, I would bet that HE wishes he made different choices back then, too. Don't you?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:01 PM
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40. So that means a closed Government to you?
Hind sight is 20/20. Given the same circimstances, I still would support President Clinton.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/clinton/reno.html
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 06:30 AM
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44. It takes great strength to admit what went wrong, adjust, and correct course.
I support Clinton when he's being attacked by lies from the RW. I don't pretend that when he protects BushInc it is somehow a good or brilliant thing.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 04:59 PM
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3. And after you trip, the only person that will help you up is a gay man.
that part was missing.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:00 PM
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6. According to Republicans...
I don't think the gay man "helps you up"
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 08:17 PM
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27. a gay illegal alien who just had an abortion
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:00 PM
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5. I sure miss the big dog
I wish he could run again
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:01 PM
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7. .
Yeah and the freepers acted "shocked" and argued that Clinton didn't take terrorism and illegal aliens seriously :eyes:.
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:06 PM
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8. Boy, I miss him
He summed it up pretty good.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:18 PM
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9. now that's a joke that delivers
if he only could have worked in abortions on demand ...
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:22 PM
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10. That's my president.
:bounce:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:26 PM
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12. Notice he said the word "us"
That really helps put a joke over
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:30 PM
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13. that was hysterical. i loved it! n/t
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 05:48 PM
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14. Yeah...
that video came out 1-2 weeks ago. It was a great one. I think the whole thing is linked on Deval Patricks' website. It was 14-15 minutes long and very inspiring.
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:36 PM
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18. He also did a joke last night on CSPAN
when he was in Memphis with Harold Ford jr and helping with his campaign. He said a good catch line that said on "Cut and run" that they (Democrats) were not for cut and run but they were for stop and think.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 07:41 PM
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 09:57 PM
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31. John Kerry is no Bill Clinton-nt
nt
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:27 PM
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35. He used that when I saw him in Stockton...got a good reaction
from the crowd.
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marigold20 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:39 PM
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36. I miss Bill!
..
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:47 PM
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38. Now that's funny!
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 10:50 PM
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39. That's how you tell a joke
Don't leave room for them to slam you. All they need is a crease of daylight to create a burning ray of sunshine.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:07 PM
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41. Why are you dragging this stuff on about Kerry? It is painful...
to see us going after our own. This could be done to any Democrat at any time.

I hate this. Someone above said Kerry is no Clinton...I say good. He is not nearly as centrist as Clinton, and I like that.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 11:15 PM
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43. Because a RW distortion of a statement
Edited on Mon Nov-06-06 11:15 PM by ProSense
is worse than 8 years of Whitewater, Lewinsky and impeachment, for which many Democrats with integrity had to come to his defense. The joke isn't even all that funny. Not that Kerry's was, but come on! LOL!
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