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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:14 PM
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On CNN. Exit polls 42% say corruption in Washington. Close to that
Terror. Next Economy at 39% then Iraq at 37%.

57% disapprove of Iraq War..41% Approve of Iraq.

62% voting on National Issues vs. Local Issues

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:15 PM
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1. Democrats are not that far from Repukes in people's beliefs they can fight
Terrorism.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:17 PM
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3. People were asked first of all "Is this issue the very important to you"
And it does add up to more than 100% so that tells you it was on a gradiant that people could choose.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:15 PM
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2. Sounds good so far. >:-)
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:18 PM
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4. seems actually the Iraq war gets a bigger slice of the big issue pie
57% disapprove of Iraq War.
42% say corruption in Washington

Guess it depends on how the bosses want to frame the election this year. :eyes:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:19 PM
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5. Those were two separate sets of Questions. The 57% was do you
Edited on Tue Nov-07-06 05:20 PM by applegrove
approve or disapprove of the Iraq War. 41% did approve. That question does add up to 100%. It was a yes or no question and separate from the earlier ones.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:22 PM
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8. We need Anti-corruption, Open Government Dems to step forward and LEAD THE PARTY
.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:21 PM
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6. Well. I wonder which party that favors, then ..
:woohoo:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:23 PM
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9. Yep..That is 16 point difference. But please people..go out and keep
voting. The polls only tell what has happened..not who people will be voting for when they get off from work.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:22 PM
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7. Are you sure terrorism is higher?
That hasn't registered on a single public opinion poll. Iraq and the economy have been polling higher.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:24 PM
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10. It was second. But the guy on CNN said that Dems test pretty close
to GOP on keeping Americans safe on Terror. I think many feel Iraq isn't helping war on terror. So it ain't necessarily a bad thing.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:27 PM
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14. Pretty close isn't good enough this is BULLSHIT!!
I am not felling good about this.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:27 PM
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15. I don't understand how it could come out of nowhere
Considerin the fact that there is no news to make it seem more prominent.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:25 PM
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12. No shit sounds like we have been set up for a fall TERRORISM..
number two and the iraq war was third. thats why i don't like these exit polls
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:39 PM
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16. Except that people who hate the war in Iraq think it has made the USA
less safe. I like that analysis. GOP doesn't have monopoly of keeping Americans safe anymore.

Questions were asked on a gradient.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:25 PM
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11. I don't think terrorism is as much the Repuke issue as 2 yrs ago. nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-07-06 05:25 PM
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13. When will our pols admit that terror is a phony issue?
Damn George Bush to Hell for all eternity for doing everything wrong on 9/11.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:47 PM
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17. And CORRUPTION is a MAJOR issue - Hey Democrats, Truth Matters
Robert Parry: HEY DEMOCRATS, TRUTH MATTERS!
Hey, Democrats, the Truth Matters!
By Robert Parry
May 11, 2006

My book, Secrecy & Privilege, opens with a scene in spring 1994 when a guest at a White House social event asks Bill Clinton why his administration didn’t pursue unresolved scandals from the Reagan-Bush era, such as the Iraqgate secret support for Saddam Hussein’s government and clandestine arms shipments to Iran.

Clinton responds to the questions from the guest, documentary filmmaker Stuart Sender, by saying, in effect, that those historical questions had to take a back seat to Clinton’s domestic agenda and his desire for greater bipartisanship with the Republicans.

Clinton “didn’t feel that it was a good idea to pursue these investigations because he was going to have to work with these people,” Sender told me in an interview. “He was going to try to work with these guys, compromise, build working relationships.”

Clinton’s relatively low regard for the value of truth and accountability is relevant again today because other centrist Democrats are urging their party to give George W. Bush’s administration a similar pass if the Democrats win one or both houses of Congress.

Reporting about a booklet issued by the Progressive Policy Institute, a think tank of the Democratic Leadership Council, the Washington Post wrote, “these centrist Democrats … warned against calls to launch investigations into past administration decisions if Democrats gain control of the House or Senate in the November elections.”

These Democrats also called on the party to reject its “non-interventionist left” wing, which opposed the Iraq War and which wants Bush held accountable for the deceptions that surrounded it.

“Many of us are disturbed by the calls for investigations or even impeachment as the defining vision for our party for what we would do if we get back into office,” said pollster Jeremy Rosner, calling such an approach backward-looking.

Yet, before Democrats endorse the DLC’s don’t-look-back advice, they might want to examine the consequences of Clinton’s decision in 1993-94 to help the Republicans sweep the Reagan-Bush scandals under the rug. Most of what Clinton hoped for – bipartisanship and support for his domestic policies – never materialized.

‘Politicized’ CIA
After winning Election 1992, Clinton also rebuffed appeals from members of the U.S. intelligence community to reverse the Reagan-Bush “politicization” of the CIA’s analytical division by rebuilding the ethos of objective analysis even when it goes against a President’s desires.

Instead, in another accommodating gesture, Clinton gave the CIA director’s job to right-wing Democrat, James Woolsey, who had close ties to the Reagan-Bush administration and especially to its neoconservatives.

One senior Democrat told me Clinton picked Woolsey as a reward to the neocon-leaning editors of the New Republic for backing Clinton in Election 1992.

“I told that the New Republic hadn’t brought them enough votes to win a single precinct,” the senior Democrat said. “But they kept saying that they owed this to the editors of the New Republic.”

During his tenure at the CIA, Woolsey did next to nothing to address the CIA’s “politicization” issue, intelligence analysts said. Woolsey also never gained Clinton’s confidence and – after several CIA scandals – was out of the job by January 1995.

At the time of that White House chat with Stuart Sender, Clinton thought that his see-no-evil approach toward the Reagan-Bush era would give him an edge in fulfilling his campaign promise to “focus like a laser beam” on the economy.

He was taking on other major domestic challenges, too, like cutting the federal deficit and pushing a national health insurance plan developed by First Lady Hillary Clinton.

So for Clinton, learning the truth about controversial deals between the Reagan-Bush crowd and the autocratic governments of Iraq and Iran just wasn’t on the White House radar screen. Clinton also wanted to grant President George H.W. Bush a gracious exit.

“I wanted the country to be more united, not more divided,” Clinton explained in his 2004 memoir, My Life. “President Bush had given decades of service to our country, and I thought we should allow him to retire in peace, leaving the (Iran-Contra) matter between him and his conscience.”

Unexpected Results
Clinton’s generosity to George H.W. Bush and the Republicans, of course, didn’t turn out as he had hoped. Instead of bipartisanship and reciprocity, he was confronted with eight years of unrelenting GOP hostility, attacks on both his programs and his personal reputation.

Later, as tensions grew in the Middle East, the American people and even U.S. policymakers were flying partially blind, denied anything close to the full truth about the history of clandestine relationships between the Reagan-Bush team and hostile nations in the Middle East.

Clinton’s failure to expose that real history also led indirectly to the restoration of Bush Family control of the White House in 2001. Despite George W. Bush’s inexperience as a national leader, he drew support from many Americans who remembered his father’s presidency fondly.

If the full story of George H.W. Bush’s role in secret deals with Iraq and Iran had ever been made public, the Bush Family’s reputation would have been damaged to such a degree that George W. Bush’s candidacy would not have been conceivable.

Not only did Clinton inadvertently clear the way for the Bush restoration, but the Right’s political ascendancy wiped away much of the Clinton legacy, including a balanced federal budget and progress on income inequality. A poorly informed American public also was easily misled on what to do about U.S. relations with Iraq and Iran.

In retrospect, Clinton’s tolerance of Reagan-Bush cover-ups was a lose-lose-lose – the public was denied information it needed to understand dangerous complexities in the Middle East, George W. Bush built his presidential ambitions on the nation’s fuzzy memories of his dad, and Republicans got to enact a conservative agenda.

Clinton’s approach also reflected a lack of appreciation for the importance of truth in a democratic Republic. If the American people are expected to do their part in making sure democracy works, they need to be given at least a chance of being an informed electorate.

Yet, Clinton – and now some pro-Iraq War Democrats – view truth as an expendable trade-off when measured against political tactics or government policies. In reality, accurate information about important events is the lifeblood of democracy.

Though sometimes the truth can hurt, Clinton and the Democrats should understand that covering up the truth can hurt even more. As Clinton’s folly with the Reagan-Bush scandals should have taught, the Democrats may hurt themselves worst of all when helping the Republicans cover up the truth.
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