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Wed Nov-08-06 12:38 AM
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Harold Ford Lost...because? |
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because he slept with the devil..DLC
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:39 AM
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1. because corker got more votes? nt |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:39 AM
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2. Yeah..people couldn't tell the difference between him |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:39 AM
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3. Because he was Repub Light, and a black man |
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Neither of which is particularly wanted in Tennessee when they could get a hard core white republican.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:40 AM
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4. Either that, or racism in TN...Or Diebold. We'll never know. |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:42 AM
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People in Eastern TN wouldn't vote for Ford cause he's a "you know what, starts with N"
Shame when it's 2006 and a black man still can win a statewide election in the south.
Just a shame.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:40 AM
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5. ask the 3 african american senators that have been elected... |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:40 AM
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6. Nah. He was a bit of a shmuck even without the DLC. |
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I suppose the voters could just see that, is all.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:46 AM
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:48 AM
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Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 12:50 AM by fujiyama
How schmuchy was he compared to that ass hole Corker?
TN didn't see through anything. This just proves TN as a state has a lot of racist fuckers, just like VA.
I'm sick of people bashing Ford, as though a more liberal candidate could have won freakin TN!
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:52 AM
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35. If he were white, he'd be a white shmuck. If he were a liberal, he'd be a liberal shmuck |
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And I don't understand your point. A more conservative candidate didn't win TN either. He didn't lose for being to conservative or being too close to the DLC. He just didn't impress me toward the end there.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:41 AM
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7. racism and because TN is run by hillbilly thugs |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:49 PM
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Hillbillies, btw, weren't racist. They fought with the north in the Civil War.
And, he lost because of our lousy media and because so many here simply refuse to vote for anyone who doesn't have an "R" after their name.
Race was very, very, very minor.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:41 AM
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8. Because he's in Tennessee, that's why. And that stupid bimbo ad. |
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He would have done a lot better in a northern state. Crooked Corker, those in Tennessee who voted for him get what they deserve, but they're probably the same stupid bunch that wouldn't vote for Gore in 2000.
As for the Tennesseans who voted for Ford, damn good fight, y'all. :toast:
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:41 AM
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:42 AM
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11. Racist bullshit worked. |
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Does he keep his House seat?
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:42 AM
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12. He probably got that close by being DLC. |
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Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 12:43 AM by AtomicKitten
As much as that nauseates most of us here, he came closer than any Democrat in the south, particularly a black Democrat, to a Senate seat - by 50,000 votes apparently.
Kudos to Harold for running a brilliant campaign.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:42 AM
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13. No, that was the reason it was so close |
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Our "national" message wouldn't fly in TN. We learned that when Shrub won it in 2000.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:43 AM
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because he's black in Tennessee and even worse a black Democrat.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:43 AM
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15. because a lot of tn residents are racists |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:43 AM
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17. That'd be my guess... nt |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:43 AM
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16. he lost because of the racist ad, but the closeness of the election |
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shows he was a great candidate and ran a great campaign.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:44 AM
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18. Hell, being a moderate/conservative 'D' was only thing that kept it close |
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It's just a tough road for a Democrat in this state in statewide elections.
That and the stupid ad were the keys.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:44 AM
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19. Maybe he losses...but, damn, close to 50% of the vote went with him. |
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Sorry, if I'm a Republican, I get no happiness from this result.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:45 AM
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20. Just stop with that b.s. |
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How did Al Gore do in Tenn. his home state in 2000? Corker spent more money than anybody else this year and it was still close.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:46 AM
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22. He lost because Tenn. is an overtly RACIST shit box |
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In Tennessee, it's still 1864. Pathetic.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:50 PM
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47. Yeah - and unless you're from Illinois, then exactly HOW many |
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black senators do you have?
NONE?
Oh - then I guess your state is racist, too.
:eyes:
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:47 AM
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23. When a republican runs against a pretend republican...the republican tends to win... |
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....he was too DINO in the end...
I think it's insulting to TN Dems that the best we could come up with has a GOP-lite candidate...
Besides, isn't President Gore from TN....
I rest my case...
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:48 AM
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27. and Gore lost TN so you're calling him a DINO? |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:52 AM
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33. I'm not so sure he "lost " his home state in '00 |
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..and NO, he's most definitely NOT a DINO...but thanks for playing...
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:51 AM
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31. So why does Nelson kick so much ass in NE? nt |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:48 AM
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24. because of the same old southern strategy |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:48 AM
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26. One mistake IMHO was busting Corker's Press Conference |
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For TN it probably came off as rude. I would think he might've lost some votes there.
But otherwise he's a good candidate and I'm sure he'll be back.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:49 AM
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28. he's young and he will come back |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:50 AM
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29. Why did Casey win? Or Lieberman? nt |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:50 AM
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30. Too close to the DLC? |
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This is fuckin TN, where Kerry lost by DOUBLE DIGITS.
Ford was within three points. That's the same margin Gore lost it by.
This was a tough state, and as a black man in a confederate state, he did pretty damn good. There was a lot of nasty racist shit flung by the republicans in this race.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:51 AM
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32. Negative racial attacks worked. |
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Unfortunately, His family was a liablity also.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:55 AM
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I won't deny racism was a factor, but I think the biggest problem by far was his family, especially outside of W TN.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:59 AM
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37. Schrum hit on the head of the nail tonight..... |
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He lost because he was spending too much time explain who he wasn't and not enough time talking abut who he was...
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Wed Nov-08-06 11:21 AM
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38. One of the reasons could be the 2 million dollars Corker |
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donated to his own campaign last Thursday, too late for Ford to benefit from the move which allowed him to receive a much larger donation from individual doners. In addition to the racism of course.
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Wed Nov-08-06 11:25 AM
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As if TN would have voted for a black ultra liberal. Sorry, I think it was the race thing. That's why Corker started with an advantage. I don't think that another Dem could have done a better job than Ford there.
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Wed Nov-08-06 11:55 AM
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41. He may not have won even if he was white |
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The odds were against any Democrat winning there, but this particular Democrat is a big phony and he has a lot of family baggage. The more I read about that guy, the less I liked him. It would have pained me to have to vote for him if I lived in Tennessee. He is a Republican for all intents and purposes and I don't think we should be shedding any tears over this one.
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Wed Nov-08-06 11:33 AM
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40. Only a fool would say that and really believe that's why Ford lost |
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This is just a lame attempt by you at venting about the DLC, not Ford. The DLC has their faults, but they're not the reason why Harold Ford lost. If you think this, then you know little about Ford. The reason Ford lost is because he's located in a state where very few Democrats, if any, would've done as well as Ford did.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:07 PM
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42. Harold Ford Lost...because? -----> "Harold, call me" end of story... |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:21 PM
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but he made some mistakes in the last week that probably did for him. Nothing that should have been fatal but...
That famous "Southern hospitality" was always going to cost him at least 5% points
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:26 PM
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44. TN is corrupt and racist. Republicans have no shame or integrity. |
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:37 PM
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45. hey alamodemoc -- spend much time in TN? |
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Take a look at Tennessee's Congressional delegation: Four repubs and three "blue dog" Democrats plus two other Democrats (Bart Gordon. who supports repeal of the estate tax, and newly elected Steve Cohen, who appears to be relatively progressive, although its a bit hard to say how progressive)
Compared to the majority of the Tennessee congressional delegation, the DLC is too liberal.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:50 PM
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48. LOL! AlamoDemoc is sadly mistaken because? |
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He reads too many loon-blogs.
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Wed Nov-08-06 12:50 PM
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49. Because of race AND that he is a Dem. Face it, Tennessee is now a knee-jerk Repuke |
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