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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:02 AM
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HUGE NEWS...BOTH Virginia & MONTANA are above the recount margin!!!
In Virginia, Webb is ahead by more than 1% so no recount there.

In Montana, it has to be less than 1/4 of 1%, and Tester is above that.

We may have the Senate by sundown, folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
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churchofreality Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:03 AM
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1. DYN-O-MITE!!!!!
This is like 50 Christmases.
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pissedoffprogressive Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:05 AM
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2. I am feeling like I died and went to democrate heaven
:bounce:
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:05 AM
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3. very very cool!
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Jacklyn75 Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:05 AM
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4. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:08 AM
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5. Do you have a link?
I keep hearing that the margin is 1/3 of a percent, the recount threshold is 1/2 of a percent.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:08 AM
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6. I'd like to agree but how so? I have Va. at ~0.33% difference.
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 09:09 AM by Brotherjohn
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/VA/S/01/index.html

About 7850 difference out of 2.36 million. From the coverage I saw last night, it's percentage of the TOTAL vote. But even if it was % of that candidate's vote, it's still <1%.

Like I said, I'd like to agree, I hope there'll be no recount, but... I think we'll have to wait until dec. or so to get the Senate (assuming MT holds up).
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Freedom Rock Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:10 AM
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8. I hope you're right but...
This time they are going to cry about the machines and election irregularities/fraud.
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:56 AM
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21. If they investigate election fraud, it'll bite them in the ass.
The exit polls have Webb winning by five percent.

Team Macacca tried and failed to steal this election.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:17 AM
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32. yep - they stole a lot of votes. Just not quite enough.
bwahahaha!
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:10 AM
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9. But how 'bout dem Saints!! (nt)
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:10 AM
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10. The talking heads all night
have been saying that 11,000 is the VA threshold for the state-funded recount.

Allen can request one, but he's gonna have to pay the costs of it.
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AntiWarPoster Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:11 AM
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12. 11k?
Webb is only leading by 8k though

So he wouldn't have to pay costs, right?
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:14 AM
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14. Dunno
MSNBC's been saying Webb's up by 12,000
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:12 AM
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13. The official State count is Webb +.29 -- well within recount
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 09:12 AM by LostinVA
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:15 AM
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15. The auto-recount is triggered at 0.5%, not 1%
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 09:16 AM by Mr_Spock
At least that's what they were saying last night.

There may be no possibility of a recount at 1%, but that ain't happening anyway!
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libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:09 AM
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7. What is going on? Why won't they declare that we've taken the
Senate?
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:21 AM
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17. Well, simple. MT and VA are still too close to call (each < half of a %).
Apparently, MT doesn't go to a recount unless the diff is <0.25%, if what someone posted here is true. I HOPE they call MT soon (diff is ~0.4% w/ 99% reporting). However, I fear some shenanigans are going on there w/ regards to already doing some "manual recounts", looking at an earlier thread here on that race.

Va. is definitely going to a recount. It only needs to be <1% for a candidate to ask for one, although if it's between 0.5 and 1%, I'm sure Allen will pay for the recount (that's the only difference; the state pays if it's <0.5%). It would look worse politically for the Republicans if they dragged out a recount being behind by nearly a percentage point, but I don't think they'd care.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:52 AM
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19. I bet they are drawings in lawyers and whatnot
there...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:10 AM
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11. VA election website still has Webb at a .29+ -- where are you getting the numbers
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:19 AM
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16. There have been no votes counted in Meagher
Fortunately, according to the Meagher County Webpage they have 1932 people living in the city. So, it's not enough to carry c. montgomery burns.
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survivor999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:51 AM
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18. Meagher must be quite a place to be....
No offense...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:01 AM
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22. It actually is
Pretty place near Helena. I wish they'd count their goddamned votes though. I'm starting to get a little testy. Somebody could have driven the county and picked them up one at a time by now. It's not that big or that populated.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 09:54 AM
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20. The problem with razor-thin victories
is sometimes you're on the wrong end of the razor.


Berlusconi found that out, and now Fearless Leader is about to find out for himself.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:01 AM
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23. Yes, this is good! :-) ... sweet! n/t
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:02 AM
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24. I think Allen can opt to pay for a recount
and if you think that won't happen, think again. The NRC will gladly pay for it at that slim margin of victory.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:04 AM
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26. Virginia elections are quite fair. Last year a recount only gained
the challenger 27 votes. Allen is toast but yes, he's such a sniveling brat that he'll hold up our Country in order to cling to the least scintilla of hope. But he's a loser! He lost today and he'll lose in a recount. Virginia may be overall too conservative for my tastes, but after six years of residing in this state, the elections IMO are FAIR. :-)
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:09 AM
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29. That's because "recounts" in Virginia are on DRE computer voting machines.
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 10:14 AM by w4rma
There aren't any paper ballots left in this state anymore, except for absentee and provisional ballots, I think.

And I don't like that one bit.

Of course, in this case, it means that Allen probably won't try to recount anything here in Virginia since there isn't anything really to recount. I'm almost positive we've won Virginia.
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Nictuku Donating Member (907 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:04 AM
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25. Can we Party Yet? (I've been holding back)
Edited on Wed Nov-08-06 10:06 AM by Nictuku






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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:07 AM
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27. Do a little jig, but don't expect the republicans to be the least bit
magnanimous even though they are in the minority. Show them NO SLACK ... IMO, by their nature, the vast majority of republicans tend to drift to dark side of humanity, i.e., do NOT ever trust them to cover your back ... EVER! ;)
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PermanentRevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:10 AM
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30. Well, the 6,000 net gain for Webb from Fairfax absentees helps!
But Montana's still too close for comfort.

So party - but keep your eyes peeled!
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 01:11 PM
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36. Depends; is 50-50 enough to celebrate? It may be over in Montana
but I believe counting Virginia would still be premature.
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:08 AM
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28. pleasepleaseplease let it be so.
I am almost crying. It would be too good to be true.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 11:04 AM
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31. I said both houses AND I MEANT IT
I am so happy right now!!!
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 12:56 PM
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33. Felix is Sore McCaccaMan if he doesn't concede!
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 01:10 PM
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34. Wrong on Virginia. State pays for recount below .5 and between .5 and 1%
challenger to vote pays if he loses the recount state pays if he wins the recount.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 01:11 PM
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35. I gotta call my husband at work. This is wonderful news. We live in VA
so to be rid of Allen has made my day, personally.
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