I wish Arianna Huffington would STFU!

[wyldwolf]

She can say what she wants to, but she doesn't speak for me.

"The more interesting question, Aravosis argues, is how will the blogs adapt to working with "Democrats who actually have power." In the short term, he hopes to hammer home the message that the election proves Americans think conservatism is "inherently wrong," rally support for voting rights reform, and support the House Democrats' new agenda. Other bloggers are more interested in crafting the agenda. On this website, for example, Arianna Huffington's top post on election night chastised Howard Dean for backtracking so far on Iraq in a CNN interview that he sounded like he was pitching "the president's plan." "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-melber/the-netroots-election-no_b_33631.html

[xultar]

1. Agreed on this point. Dean didn't backtrack at all. He's been quite

consistent on this point.

We'd better watch ourselves before we shoot our own feet.

[churchofreality]

34. WTF is her beef with Dean and Hillary???

I like her but she is a bit too critical of certain Democrats. Don't get me wrong, I think that makes us great, and separates us from the Koolaid republicans, but they huddle together when they need to. We need a coalition of the willing.

[madfloridian]

2. She also said the Dems won in SPITE of him...

That was an ugly article. There was no need for it. She knows better.

[Cha]

6. "The Dems won in spite of him"!

What an ugly lie..someone should go on her blog and set her straight.

[madfloridian]

8. I see a few comments, but there should be more.

I find her a puzzle. That was a total misrepresentation of what he said.

[partylessinOhio]

3. Ignore her. She is so stupid she married a gay man.

I don't waste my time listening to her.

[MADem]

5. Well, so did Cole Porter's wife--but she at least KNEW!!!!!

:rofl: But your point is taken!

And she was with the rightwingnuts before she was against them.

Arianna is desperately trying to be RELEVANT in these times. She has no spotlight with this change in governance, it's not all about her and her clever accented words, so all she can do is stomp her foot and pout about something.

[guidod]

7. I agree......

Quit watching CNN and pay attention to C-Span if you must watch T.V.. Also, stay away from her post.

[NoSheep]

that isn't so unusual. I know folks who want partners and they choose

the opposite sex because they are friends and cannot tolerate living in a society that condemns their reality. I'm not trying to be mean...but these things happen more than you may know for reasons that are quite personal to the parties involved.

[flyingfysh]

4. Dean has consistently been against the war since before it started

I was at a large anti-war demonstration in Boston before the war, and Dean was the ONLY politician who had people campaigning there for him on an anti-war platform.

[madfloridian]

9. She has lost major grassroots trust over that.

I have seen comments from some surprising places. She knows better entirely.

[Cameron27]

10. Dean was a statesman

last night, maybe she forgot what that means. The Doctor wouldn't let whacko Tweety put words in his mouth, Arianna STFU and don't you try.

[cybildisobedience]

11. while I applaud her efforts to counter the Drudge factor with her website,

I am sometimes appalled at the sort of swipe she takes at someone like Howard Dean.
And of ALL NIGHTS.

On the brink of a historic, life-saving election that has the potential to reclaim America's greatness, she nitpicks about Dean's response? to a nutcase like Chris Matthews? who hasn't held one person in the Bush White House responsible in six years?

Seriously, Ariana, STFU if you can't be positive on a night like last night.

Seriously.

[Bitwit1234]

12. Outraged

DEAN'S 50 STATE STRATEGY IS WHAT BROUGHT THE ELECTION HOME. HE started at the grassroots to bring in candidates who could win and who did win. And he helped those that needed help..AND HE DID NOT PULL ANY DIRTY TRICKS LIKE ROVE TO DO IT. His election strategy was CLEAN.

[wyldwolf]

14. well, actually..

the DCCC and DSCC's efforts won this puppy.

[KoKo]

15. Well actually, the Grass Roots won this puppy and Howard Dean and

Dennis Kucinich's supporters who have been working to try to pull their local Dem State Aparatus into the 21st Century.

[wyldwolf]

16. sorry . no, an article in the Nation spelled it out

While there is no single, authoritative list of netroots candidates, ActBlue.com, a Democratic fundraising clearinghouse, lists the candidates nominated by top blogs and ranks them by total donors. Looking at their top 20 Democratic House candidates, so far ten have lost, three have won and the other seven are in races that are still too close too call at the time of writing. The netroots' lost races include national names, such as FBI whistleblower Coleen Rowley in Minnesota and New York's Eric Massa, the popular former aide to Gen. Wesley Clark. Winners include attorney Paul Hodes in New Hampshire and two veterans, Joe Sestak in Pennsylvania and Tim Walz in Minnesota. (Bloggers also provided critical early support to long-shot Senate challengers Jon Tester and Jim Webb, who were locked in races that were also still too close to call on Wednesday morning.)

Yet regardless of the remaining results and recounts, the fact is the netroots' favorite candidates did not perform as well as the Democrats targeted by party leaders...

[PVnRT]

21. Clearly, the yahoo lefties on the internet should be quiet, eh?

:eyes:

I'm sure Dean's work has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with the election results yesterday. NOTHING AT ALL.

[wyldwolf]

23. did I say any of that?

:eyes:

[LoZoccolo]

25. Strawman. n/t

[KoKo]

27. I'm talking about Grassroots activism re-energizing State Parties not Netroots.

Without the Netroots the activists couldn't have connected with each other but I'm talking about grassroots support for getting out the vote supporting all the candidates not just those supported or promoted by Bloggers.

Without the organizing skills of former Dean, Kucinich and even Nader supporters the Party would have blundered along as usual with another Terry MacAuliff hitting the big donors and not recognizing the power of re- building the party from the ground up.

[wyldwolf]

28. ...and I'm talking about THIS election

...where the Democratic leadership entrusted Emanuel to win it and he did.

Your post is just another in a long line from people who somehow believe Democratic party "activism" was invented by Deaniacs.

[wyldwolf]

19. ...and another great quote from Nancy Pelosi

As the Democrats took control of the House on Tuesday, the expected new House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, told a Democratic gathering in Washington, "Let's hear it for Rahm Emanuel. He did a great job masterminding our strategy, which is bearing fruit tonight."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0611080085nov08,1,2440897.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

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[butterfly77]

17. I have been saying this for the past few weeks...

if she wants to go back to the other side hurry up and get the fuck out of here...

[Zodiak]

18. why not?

she came from there in the first place.

Let us not forget she was once Republican.

[MGD]

20. Me Too. Shut up and take off your shirt Arianna.

[MODemocrat]

22. What's Arianna's beef with Howard Dean?

For crying out loud, the Democrats won, big time, and a lot of that was because of Howard Dean. He was the first one to stand up to Bush and Karl Rove, and it didn't matter how high Bush's approval rating was. He's one of the most resilient people I've ever known, and I've supported him from day one. He gave me hope when I'd about given up.

Arianna's a fence rider and not exactly sure what she is, after being a republican for so long. I definitely wouldn't take her advice on anything political.
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :silly: :silly: :silly:

[wyldwolf]

24. He's a Democrat.

[MODemocrat]

36. Enough said, wyldwolf

Where does Arianna stand, or does she even know? I know she hates Bill Clinton, and makes no bones about it, but I thought it was just him. Obviously, she has a vendetta against us Democrats.

[Q]

26. I really enjoy these 'STFU' threads...

...especially in a country that prides itself on 'free speech'.

Do we have the 'right' to disagree? Sure. But you're telling someone to "SHUT THE FUCK UP". (pardon the french)

This is hardly what we could call civil discourse.

Huffington has been a constant thorn in Bush's side since he took office. She deserves a bit of credit for this...if for nothing else.

[wyldwolf]

29. Which is why I said "I WISH she would..."

...then said she could say what she wanted to.

See?

No one has said she can't exercise her free speech rights.

[WCGreen]

30. Why she is even given a voice on National TV is beyond

me...

She does not speak for me or the liberals or the democratic party...

I have a feeling if she could make money as a Green Spokesperson, she would ruch toward that...


First a GOP mouthpiece, now a Liberal mouthpiece...

STFU!!!!

[question everything]

31. Its here blog and she can say what she wants

I am sure that many Democrats disagree with what the daily kos or moveon say on theirs.

[wyldwolf]

32. has anyone said otherwise?

[kentuck]

33. Generally speaking...

Arianna is as close to the truth as anyone in America. I would not be willing to throw her overboard for one comment that I disagreed with. That would be foolish.

[Capn Sunshine]

35. Dear Arianna, Howard has always always been to the right of most net roots

I guess Arianna just buys that "crazy leftwing" label Fox news hangs on him. Howard believes in a type of balance of power that requires a military presence in the MidEast for quite some time. I totally disagree with this, but we both agree that we need to get out of the poison bog that is Iraq, and clamp down on the rampant theft by Bushco cronies there. It's a matter of degree and distance. Howard Dean's positions on many issues are what one would call "right" of many progressives, but we love and support him because he's willing to listen and consider our POV, and he's always been honest about what we are and what we could and should be. THAT is populism, and that is what this is all about, joining hands and pulling our country out of the rightwing fever swamp.

Arianna of all people should know that there's no simple black/white solution to Iraq.
Anything we do from here forward is going to have some negative results, but IMO the less pain and death to OUR troops, the better, and that means GTFO right NOW.

Now for the hearings on the hideous profiteering. If you haven't seen Iraq For Sale you must watch.

[Cafe Americano]

37. she's jealous

She wanted her gay millionaire husband to be senator from California so she could one day end up in the White House. Now she's just bitter. She's also in the Church of the Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness (ie she's a crackpot).

[welshTerrier2]

38. Dean's interview with Tweety was very disturbing

Tweety, in his as usual obnoxious style, battered Dean for a clear answer on Iraq ... he more or less insisted that Dean respond to his question which was "how can you justify keeping the troops in Iraq for even another day - what's the point - what do you expect to accomplish?"

look, let's tell the truth about Dean's position: it is PURELY POLITICAL ... we can argue whether playing politics with the war is a good thing or a bad thing but let's not deny that when Dean says we need to remain in Iraq that he doesn't really believe it ... does anyone reading this think that is Dean's "real position"?

what happened in the Tweety interview on Tuesday was that Tweety was beating Dean up over the hypocrisy ... when you choose politics over policy, that's the price you pay ...

Dean said that we couldn't leave Iraq now because we had an obligation to the Iraqi people to succeed there ... believe what you like; there will be no success in Iraq - the US is part of the problem; not part of the solution ...

Sad to say it but Huffington was right; there is painfully little difference between Dean's plan and any of the other "we have to stay there" plans ... we may not like to hear it but staying is staying ...

[JI7]

39. she probably wishes Democrats lost

[JamesJoyce]

40. DEAN is doing the right thing

by backing away from the fringe Lamont crowd.

[eridani]

42. You mean 62% of the population is "fringe"? n/t

[ribrepin]

41. I didn't notice Arianna out there leading the charge before the election

I'd rather hear from Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Even what's his name who ran the House elections and Chuck Schumer.

I suppose she'll be everywhere talking for the Democrats.