Real reason "impeachment off table"

[Point_n_click]

When I first heard that line from Nancy Pelosi I got hot under the collar because those of us paying attention know it is deserved. Then I had time to think about how it might all play out and realized the wisdom of saying it was off the table.

1. When the Pretzel and his Vice get impeached the next person in line is Speaker of the House. That would make it look like a political power grab and not something in service to the nation.

2. Once investigations have solid evidence that can't be disputed no matter how much it's spun then the Speaker can call for it with most of the public supporting it and without it looking like a power grab.

3. Once the case becomes clearly open and shut the Repubs will have no choice but to support the impeachment and the conviction or the public will see their refusal as more corruption.

I'm no longer upset with Nancy Pelosi for her comment. I understand the reasoning behind it now.

[Iwasthere]

I agree... she is brilliant!!!

[lazyriver]

8. Yup, she didn't get where she is

by being dumb. She's playing chess while they play checkers...

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. That's my read

if we get it, it will be becuase WE the people have given them the power to do it...not a second before

[stopbush]

2. There will never be an impeachment, but they might be forced to resign

a la Nixon. The pressure would come from the Rs, not the Ds, just like Watergate.

[BattyDem]

3. As I said in another post ....

She said, "No impeachment" - she never said, "No investigations." You're right ... when the truth is revealed, the American people will tell her what to do. :evilgrin:

[davhill]

4. Couldn't we just impeach Cheney?

Bush is just a puppet; he would be relatively harmless for the next two years without his puppet master.

[Davis_X_Machina]

5. There will be subpoenas going to the White House...

...and they have already indicated that they have no intention of responding. Within months we'll be about where we were in April of '74.

That takes us out of foreign policy, where for better or worse there's a tradition of executive freelancing, and back to the familiar territory of US v. Nixon.

That's much better grounds upon which to operate. There's precedent, and memory.

So impeachment is off the table only right up until the day -- and it's not far off - when Cheney and Junta Boy put it back on the table.

[pdrichards114]

6. this makes loads of sense!!! I'm with you, and am no longer upset at Pelosi's comment

[Stinky The Clown]

7. Yes, it is all about strategy

This is exactly where I think the Dem leadership is.

We need to be ready to cheer in support and fan the flames once they set the pyre afire.

Get your head around it .... **righteous** impeachment.

[Cary]

9. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Where did impeachment get the Pukes?

The election wasn't for the Democrats. The election was a rejection of the Bush Administration. We have to be better than them over the next 2 years. We have to show THE PEOPLE (not the top 1%) the difference between their (Republican) spin and that which we really deliver.

If we can do that the people who have been doing all of these awful things are done.

[wildbilln864]

16. I want to see IMPEACHMENT!

And then procecution of Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Rice and any others who are guilty.
They knowingly allowed 9/11 to happen and nearly 3000 people lost their lives because of their criminal negligence at least! Then they used that event(their new Pearl Harbor event) to justify invading Iraq! They were spying on Americans before 9/11 happened! They used forgeries and they lied to the people and the congress. Yes IMPEACH,IMPEACH, IMPEACH!
Before they can cover their tracks.

[Point_n_click]

17. I'm with you, but I understand the need to lock it up with details

Yes, they deserve it for those reasons and more. Let's get all our legal ducks in a row and then hand them their collective asses for the good of our country for all time.

But let's do it in a way it will have almost all U.S. citizens behind it. I think that's where things are going and it has allowed me to relax just a bit since coming to that understanding.

[davidwparker]

10. If it proceeds like this, neither do I. Conyers needs to remove elections

by using Ohio 2004 and this election as exhibits. In that way, all will know Ohio 2004 was stolen and therefore, Chimpy did not win the second time either and that that fraud was orchestrated by the WH. One plank for impeachment while reforming elections.

Iraq. While assessing how to fix Iraq, we investigate the roots and confirm that Chimpy/Darth did lie us into war and is guilty of crimes against peace. Another plank for impeachment.

Etc. Etc.

Expose all the crimes and use the outcome as a cause for impeachment and then conviction in the senate.

[KansDem]

11. There needs to be an official public record...

There needs to be some official document that outlines what these thugs and cutthroats did for all future generations to see. That's why I'm happy about the Dems taking both the House and the Senate. I know impeachment is "off the table," but if investigations can be held, with subpoenas and oaths, and the whole sordid mess laid out for all to see in the form of an official document (ie, Congressional Record), then I'll be happy.

PS, a few convictions would be icing on the cake.

[oasis]

12. It's also likely that more damning evidence of executive abuse of power

will surface. The public will demand hearings, followed by impeachment proceedings.

[LynneSin]

13. Reason - Pelosi ain't heading the impeachment investigation, CONYERS is

And since John Conyers never once agreed or disagreed with Pelosi, you knew she was just saying that to shut the media up about the impeachment before the election

[Lexingtonian]

14. yep

Being aggressive is counterproductive. Just let the political nets close in, let the support for BushCo fall as their policies fail and their Party disintegrates and as they lie to their base (the only sin there is for the diehards), and one fine day the bottom just falls out.

[kwolf68]

15. At the risk of being wrong a 2nd time this week

As I predicted Maccacawitz would win...

Dumbya Bush will not be impeached, ever...for many reasons. If Pelosi is hanging the "possiblity" on the vine for Bush to "contemplate" it is most likely to get the fucker to sign legislation the Dems think important for this nation.

Don't get your hopes up for Bush impeacement.