So, What if they DID Rig the Vote?

[JCMach1]

Just exactly how big was the victory?

[marmar]

1. I'm sure there was a great deal of fraud, and they still got their asses kicked...

It just shows how unpopular and out-of-step with real people their agenda is. Poetic justice is a beautiful thing.

[RoccoR5955]

2. Even if they did

There was such a turnout, that it overcame the number that they thought would turn out. Had the elections NOT been rigged, it might have been larger. Why do you think that the Republicans don't want Macaca to call for a recount?

[unpossibles]

9. I agree, Actually, in many ways I was happy to see

Allen call for a recount for two reasons:

1 - it's nice to see the other side have to think about these things, even if it just exposes their hypocrisy (get over it!)

2 - I want fair elections no matter what. If the people truly want conservative leaders, that is fine as long as everyone gets to vote and every vote is counted. I feel confident enough in my own political philosophy being one that is fair to and good for America to want a 100% fair vote - what does that say about the people rigging the game? That they know average folks don't agree with their philosophy.

[wakeme2008]

3. that's what I have been thinking myself. One example

is CA-50 and the thinks listed on Bradblog...

I do not know about Senate races but I would bet some House races were stolen from the Dems.

[JCMach1]

6. At least one in Florida as well- Florida 13

We need the verifiable paper trail now...

[Maggie_May]

4. I have two thoughts on that

we had to many boots on the ground for them to steal it.
Two Rove and Bush didn't really care. Bush is out soon and that they didn't want to pay off this election. You know that the Republicans don't give a shit about no one but themselves. Or you may be right the margins were so huge that they couldn't over come the win.

[uberblonde]

5. Actually, it does matter if they stole House seats.

Because we still don't have a veto-proof majority.

[JCMach1]

8. There will be lots of irregularities if there is the interest to dig into it

[spooky3]

7. If electronic machines and voter suppression isn't in Pelosi's first 100 hrs

it should definitely be in her second 100 hrs.

[LaurenG]

10. I just want to know why they didn't steal it this time?

I mean if they really did steal it previously, why didn't it happen on Tuesday. Does anyone have a theory?

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

11. I just think the outrage was impossible to counter. The robocalls in VA

seemed to have backfired, since the media actually pounced on the source of the calls rather than let them occur without comment.

They're GOTV was flat, fundies being pretty disgusted with the whole bunch.

The independents who are easily swayed, did not have any last minute event occur that would push them to the R side of the column (maybe Rove was expecting the Saddam verdict to accomplish that feat)

Voter disenfranchisement wasn't as effective. I can tell you from personal GOTV work here in Denver, even with 2 and 3 hour waits, people were determined to cast their vote, regardless of the difficulty.

Sheer numbers of voters for the midterms and a hyper-vigilance to discrepancies in vote counts vs. exit polls.

These are all just off the top of my head, I'm not an expert. MKJ

[KayLaw]

13. I think they tried.

There was only so much they could do with all the focus on the machines, plus Foley and Haggard hurt them. In the end too many Americans rose up and said "NO!" to fascism. Despite the machines and media working for them they couldn't surf the tsunami.

[JCMach1]

14. Nice Analysis...

[AikidoSoul]

12. The PuppetMasters Got Pissed Off

They didn't want the country to be completely destroyed under their guidance.

Significantly, two weeks ago the Asian countries and bankers started conversations with each other about "diversifying" their investments away from the dollar. Maybe they could take out Saddam Hussein, and go after Chavez... but not all of Asia.

That surely made US financial knees tremble.

Not even the Federal Reserve would be able to reverse the carnage that would ensue.

They had to do something. Even the rabid and idiotic free trade billionaire Tom Friedman was frothing at the mouth for change.

[philb]

15. At least one stolen Congressional Race in Florida

In Dist 13 race, Jennings was far ahead & had Media endousements, yet saw her votes disappear into touch screens

In FL, Electronic Voting Shortfall Raises Eyebrows
By Paul Kiel - November 8, 2006, 11:03 AM
A recount battle is brewing, fittingly, in Katherine Harris' old seat, where a voting shortfall on buggy electronic voting machines is calling the election results into doubt.

From The Herald Tribune:
Republican Vern Buchanan was clinging to a 368-vote edge over Democrat Christine Jennings for the 13th Congressional District early this morning.
Although Buchanan declared victory just before 1 a.m., the razor-thin margin kept Jennings from conceding defeat and will generate an automatic recount....
The results were loaded with controversy as nearly 13 percent of all ballots cast in Sarasota didn’t include a choice for Congress. That difference, and scattered reports of difficulty finding the race on Sarasota’s touchscreen ballots, raised concerns about under votes in the race.
Supervisor of Elections Kathy Dent couldn’t explain why 8,000 to 10,000 fewer people voted in the congressional race than in other high-profile races for governor, attorney general or U.S. Senate. But she said nothing mechanical went wrong with the county’s $4.7 million touchscreen voting machine system....
Throughout the day voters complained that touchscreen voting machines were not registering votes for Jennings properly. Jennings campaign held a midday press conference to warn the problem was widespread....
Already Democrats were calling in lawyers from the Democratic National Committee to weigh in on the potential voting issues....
In Sarasota County, with all but one precinct reporting, 87,797 people voted for Bill Nelson, Katherine Harris or another candidate for U.S. Senate. In the governor race between Charlie Crist and Jim Davis, 87,678 county resident voted.
Only 76,549 voted for Jennings or Buchanan. In comparison, about 3,000 more people voted in the Sarasota Public Hospital Board election.
But a similar undervote was not recorded in other counties that voted in the District 13 race.

[savemefromdumbya]

16. I think that we did have a landslide but it came out as small majorities

Anyway we won overall!