Is Evan Bayh the best chance to win the Presidency?

[Thrill]

Seriously I know he is not the guy most liberals love. But everyone he campaigned with won on Tuesday. He can carry his own state. Possibly even Kentucky. Would be attractive to southerners. Has the looks and the background to attract Independents.

Especially if the Repukes run Frist or McCain, isn't he the best candidate? With no great Dem Governors out there, and if Clark doesn't run. Wouldn't Bayh give us the best chance?

I'm not a fan of running Senators but I would if it looks like they're going to run a Senator

[Totally Committed]

1. NO.

Unless this is a joke, that is not my opinion at all.

I could not support him.

TC

[ropi]

11. NO!

NO! NO!

[Renew Deal]

2. No

He would be another pretty boy senator. He's hugely popular in IN, but not anywhere else.

[flpoljunkie]

3. Hell, no! Bayh one of DLC's Al From's candidates--"Clinton, Vilsack, Warner and Bayh"

Of course, Warner has recently taken himself out of the running, but he was one of DLC Al From's "candidates."

[Eurobabe]

4. Gong

That's a no.

[IndyOp]

5. NO NO NO NO NO - Ass-kisser. NO leadership qualities. NOTHING.

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

STOP trying to find a "strategic" candidate and find someone who is exceptionally qualified and who will inspire voters. Our JOB is not to 'get someone elected' - it is to have a positive effect on our world.

P.S. I live in Indiana - we are stuck with the ass-kissing DLC'er because his father was a decent man. He is NOT.

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

[quiet.american]

6. Surely you jest. n/t

[ChiciB1]

7. NOPE,,, NOT,,, Not Going There Myself

On the other hand, Hillary SERIOUSLY needs to RE-configure many of her recent actions.

Nancy Pelosi seems to be the woman of the hour and depending how she conducts herself just might show Hillary a thing or two. Pelosi can and probably will lead in a very effective way and she actually GOT the First Woman Award BEFORE Hillary did!!!

Democrats need to go slow here and build toward an attitude that WE as Democrats can work together but still maintain our core beliefs about helping those less fortunate and the middles class!

[dae]

8. So far it's unanimous, No. :)

[earthside]

9. Zzzzzzzz.

He ... is ... such ... a ... snoozy ... speaker.

Bayh ... would ... put ... the ... voters ... to .... sleep ... and ... he ... is ... boringly ... timid ... and ... sluggishly ... moderate.

[Donna Zen]

10. War War War

without any foreign policy credentials. Kinda a bomb Iran guy

Loves business more than ordinary people. Sold you and me out many times. Sirota devoted a page to Bayh as a Democratic hack.

I didn't bust my butt and donate all of the money I did, to get sold out by Bayh and his boasters.

[greendog]

12. Evan Bayh is a Senate backbencher...

...good surface qualities but short on substance.

[skooooo]

13. dino

[kentuck]

14. So long as he signs the laws the Congress passes....

it really doesn't matter as much as we might think...

[messiah]

15. The best chance for POTUS for the democrats is someone

who is very charismatic when will Dems understand that?.
See when a person is very charismatic the person's policies don't matter so he or she could be a socialist and still win by a large margin.

[Pithy Cherub]

16. Giggles uncontrollably.

Um, no....:rofl:

[wisteria]

17. Why? Doesn't seem to shine above others possibly running.

Personally, I don't get his appeal at all.

[FourScore]

18. Barf! Don't buy into this "moderate" crap their peddling on TV!

The dems need to energize their base. They FINALLY started making some noise against the war and they won. They need energize their base. That's the key...

Evan Bayh!?! :puke:

[Norquist Nemesis]

19. Vilsack threw his name into the hat

For whatever reasons, Governors get a better shot at becoming President than do Senators. So, I'd say no on Bayh.

[lonehalf]

24. This weekend we're going to poll this question.

"Have you ever heard of Tom Vilsack"?

In North Georgia I bet we will get a lot of "Who?".

He better build up name recognition fast.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

20. Fuck no. (nt)

[FrenchieCat]

21. What is odd is that those same Indiana candidates who won also

campaigned with and were endorsed by Wes Clark. So the question is, was Evan Bye the reason they won, or were they just the "right" candidate for their respective districts who ran good races at the right time and were seen with the right people? From my point of view, many of the candidates Clark endorsed and campaigned for also won....and that was in many more places than Indiana.

So a warning that it's easy to find cause and effect where there is possibly none. (plus, I'm getting tired of those who try to credit just one person with what happened on Tuesday. It took a village, not just one individual....and many, many played a role; some larger than others--and I don't necessarily feel that Evan Bye was such huge player.)

Glad to see you mentioning Clark, and it is entirely possible that Wes Clark will choose not to run. I also do believe that to many who are preaching the "center" approach that has been touted all over the TV by Corporate media and insider Democrats and Republicans alike would find Bye an attractive candidate.......but this is on "its face" and really doesn't provide a good enough portrait of what it is that Bayh brings to the table other than the fact that he is not a forceful personality (which I think is required for the job) or a controversial politician. That being said, I believe that we can and should do better, but he would be better than say......McCain!

PS. Note, I am not saying that Evan Bye didn't have a thing to do with Indiana winning 3 seats that were previously "red", and I'm sure he didn't "hurt". But really, I believe that you are giving Bye more credit than is required on this one. There were too many candidates that Bye DIDN'T appear with who also won....so I don't believe that under common sense scrutiny, your analysis of Bye's worth (which you present as a undeniable fact) would necessarily hold up.

[PVnRT]

27. I live in one of those districts

At no point did the name "Clark" ever come up.

[Alhena]

22. He voted for the horrible bankruptcy bill ... he's a Republican

Obama has more charisma in his little finger than Bayh has in his entire body. And Obama is actually a Democrat.

[Southsideirish]

23. Uh.........NO!!!!!!!!!!! Never!!!! Perish the thought!!!! He's a rethug-lite.

[Contrary1]

35. You live in Indy?

I think I've seen you post on a local board.

[myrna minx]

25. NO no no no no!

Good GOD no.

[Vidar]

26. No.

[Texas_Kat]

28. No

enough said

[politicasista]

29. No. According to Tavis Smiley is too far right n/t

[Jai4WKC08]

30. I have a honest question...

You said, "But everyone he campaigned with won on Tuesday."

Who exactly did he campaign with?

I ask for a couple reasons. One, I'd like to know how many total races he influenced, which were Democratic incumbents already, which were open seats in normally Democratic districts, and so forth -- in otherwords, how many seats did he flip? Two, I want to know if he was taking chances with who he chose to endorse. Seems to me one of the biggest problems we have with big-name Democrats is an unwillingness to stand up for what (or who) is right, if doing so might be risky or unpopular.

[Thrill]

31. Obama isn't going to be elected

at least not at this time. There are still way too many people who won't vote for him because of his skin color.

[Alhena]

34. I disagree

Harold Ford got 48% of the vote in Tennessee, and he had a lot of baggage from his family's corruption scandals. Sure, some hard-core racists won't vote for a black man, but most of those would have voted Republican anyway.

I bet Obama doesn't have 40% of the electorate who are bound and determined never to vote for him like Hillary does. I think there are more Americans who can't imagine a woman as commander as chief than there are those who can't imagine a black man as president. As long as that black man makes it clear that he's equally interested in promoting all Americans, instead of being seen as an advocate for African-Americans.

[59millionmorons]

32. YES

And if we don't elect someone like Bayh or Edwards we will lose. Flat out, no doubt. PRESIDENT JOHN MCCAIN

[LittleClarkie]

33. Who?

That's what most people in the mainstream will say. He'll have to come up as a dark horse.