Is the DNC cutting and running from Impeachment?

[Eye See You]

Soldiers and Iraqis are dying right now! We can't negotiate with the Bush crime family and make nice. The GOP have been partisan since 1854. The high road of pragmatism goes in a circle around the mountain around and around. Convict Bush/Cheney now!!!!!!!!!!! TO HELL WITH PRAGMATISM!


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[onenote]

1. When were they supporting it?

How can they "cut and run" from something that they never pushed for in the first place?

[Horse with no Name]

2. More like the DLC

:)Have to keep that center happy happy joy joy you know.

[William769]

8. Pst.

It was the center that won the Election Tuesday.

[tavalon]

9. Um, how the fuck do you know?

Oh, wait, I know. Because the media tells you that liberals are such a rare bird and that the middle of the roaders make up most of the constituency. Of course, they're pulling that out of their collective asses.

[MGD]

12. Conservative Democrats won the Senate for us. It's hard to call that anything but center.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. It's true, it's true.

Bill O'Reilly told me.

:eyes:

[MGD]

23. Jim Webb was the company commander of a Marine Corps Rifle company in Vietnam

and Tester is a strong proponent of second amendment rights. Not what I would call modern liberal characteristics. They, and many other newly elected Democrats are, in fact, moderates. This is what America has mandated, moderation.

[William769]

13. ROFLOL!

Listen to yourself. Your trying to tell me that the Liberals swept this election? I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you then. :rofl:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

24. The country moved as left as they could.

Liberals couldn't sweep anything. There weren't any on the ballot. 'Ceptin' Bernie.

[MGD]

10. Yeah, because America obviously prefers the far right/left positions over the center.

:sarcasm:

[ShortnFiery]

3. No worries!

The investigations will reveal so much corruption and lies that Cheney will resign first ... and then Junior (Baker will have to guide him out).

[pnwmom]

4. Do we have 67 votes for conviction in the Senate?

If we impeach (indict) in the House, but we fail to convict him in the Senate, then he will be able to say that he was found NOT GUILTY. And he and his supporters will be vindicated.

[MGD]

14. Exactly, nothing good will come from it and we risk losing so much that we have just gained.

It's a card of last resort as far as I'm concerned.

[luckyleftyme2]

22. I'll bet there is

I'll bet that at least a dozen of the republican senators that were brow beat will jump at the chance to nail chenny or bush.

[gully]

5. No

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[Barack_America]

6. If you want soldiers and Iraqis to STOP dying, you SHOULD

NOT support impeachment. It will gridlock the congress and delay any solution to Iraq.

[liberalnurse]

7. I fully agree on No Impeachment......

Let's get something done for America and win a Presidency. Let fate be their master,,,,, I'm ready to have a Congress that works. I definitely identify their crimes against humanity but we will not serve the people by impeachment.

[madfloridian]

11. That is not the DNC's decision.

But yes, the party is going to investigate corruption, but not impeach right now.

I agree.

[JamesJoyce]

15. Only the DEAN wing of the party wants impeachment

NOT the average American

Political suicide, their forte

[madfloridian]

18. No, it is not the Dean wing. Not true at all. A few only.

It is mostly other independent groups. DFA doesn't want impeachment overall either. I think some in PDA want it.

[Arkana]

20. Uh, no it's not.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, didn't Dean himself say that we weren't really considering impeachment seriously?

Let's be real here--I'd rather have Bush as a meat shield.

[Howardx]

21. thanks for playing today

n/t

[Epiphany4z]

17. how long would it

take to impeach him?Can it be done in 2 yrs? How much of our time would we have to devote? could we still work getting some other positive things done? health care, min wage, pushing back some of damage this dip stick has done?

Do we have the votes for him to actually be impeached?

what is in it for us? will it cost us to many of our hard fought gains?

I would love to see him impeached hell...I want him locked up...but what I want more than anything..is for this to never ever happen again....we nearly lost it all because of GW and buddies.

[pnwmom]

19. Fortunately, Epiphany4z, I think some of the calmer

heads -- like Nancy Pelosi's -- will prevail.

Bush is a criminal. But we need to be smart, and a smart prosecutor doesn't go to trial unless she knows she can CONVICT. We don't have those 67 votes now -- and by the time we do, Bush will probably be halfway out the door.

[KalicoKitty]

25. Bush should be indicted and charged for war crimes!

Pelosi says no impeachment. A military coup sounds much better.

[Rockholm]

26. Go Away.

What is up with all these people stirring up this shit since Tuesday? Enough already.

[Eye See You]

27. They impeached Clinton in less time.

We can't let these criminals just walk away without any type of penalty. The list of their crimes is so long that it a 30000 page summery just to get a basic concept of all the infraction and felonies they committed. Nixion, Clinton and even president Adams got impeached for less than nothing. We would be remiss in our constitutional responsibilities in letting them skate into the sunset.
Politics is a ugly game. Like war, people get hurt. A former president onced mused: If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. So in that spirit I say:
Moderates are like an ass, you got your left cheek and you got your right cheek then you got what's in the middle.
American people threat political struggle like sports. The USA rules the world and we are in the belly of the beast. The Neo-cons like this arrangement.
There is a lot of levity on this message board. Groovy! But stopping bloodshead from war is serious business.

Time for justice! Arrest the Bush Crime family and their Neo-Con cohorts! Convict the CEO's of corporate crimes! Make the religous right act like Chhristian opposed to Islamic Jehadists. Confront right wing propaganda with the truth! There are no absolutes and generalities in politics. The right wing and left wing has many shades of ideologies. Soccer moms are not the same as black hooded Anarchists! Common sense will tell you that!

[Zangal]

28. an appeal to sanity

again, Pelosi took it off the table because troops are in Harm's Way.

Messing with a sitting Commander-in-Chief in that situation is
tantamount to political suicide. We'd be out in '08 in all three
branches for another 12 years.

This is the same reason she stated that she would not force a pull-out
by de-funding the military budgets.

Nancy, Murtha, and Reid will fight to get them home safely, and once
they are, they will walk over to Conyer's office and ask for what he's
got for them. They will listen to him and proclaim, "Shocked! Shocked
we are that such malfeasance has gone unreported! String the bastard up!"

And we must be patient and make sure it's done right.