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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:06 PM
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Why Pelosi? Why not Conyers for Speaker of the House?
I'm not trying to rain on the Pelosi parade, but I personally feel that Conyers has a better track record of hitting the corrupt where it hurts: Demands for investigations and accountability.

So, why not Conyers? I think he'd make a better Speaker of the House.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:08 PM
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1. You answered your own question
Conyers will be head of judiciary. That's where he will be most valuable.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:09 PM
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3. Why not as Speaker of the House though? Is there a legitimate reason?
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:56 PM
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24. Yes
Conyers has done the leg work and the research and is hot to trot on the criminal investigations. Let him go for it. And for that reason, I sincerely think he doesn't want to be speaker. He's spent an enormous amount of time to pull together information and evidence on these criminals. Let him complete his job.

Pelosi will be a fine Speaker. And if not, she can be replace later. right now, continuity is important.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:08 PM
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2. I love Conyers, too. nt
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:09 PM
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4. What makes you think Conyers is interested in being Speaker?
He has never sought any position in leadership nor has he publicly expressed any interest in being Speaker.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:12 PM
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6. But do you have any objections to him being speaker?
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:17 PM
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13. I'd have no objections if he were interested in running, but it's not up to me
It's up to the Caucus. And neither Conyers nor anyone else in the Caucus has indicated the least bit of interest in running for Speaker, so what's the point of speculating about something that's not even remotely likely to happen?
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:19 PM
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15. Alright, that's a satisfactory answer.
Good to see you'd have no objections - that's all.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:20 PM
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16. Why thank you - I'm so relieved that you approve of my response
:-)
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:11 PM
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5. Please let Conyers do his work with Judiciary. . .EOM
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:13 PM
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8. It's just a question - do you think he'd be a good Speaker, or what?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:14 PM
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9. Sure - he would be great at anything he wants to do. . .EOM
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:36 PM
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21. Right on!
He is not only the best for the job, but I would not deny him the satisfaction for all the world.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:12 PM
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7. Let's see...
She has been minority leader.
She has done a great job as minority leader.
She did a great job during the campaign (She raised the 2nd largest amount of money for Dems during the campaign)
She's smart
She's savvy

She earned it.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:15 PM
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10. Let me put it this way, if Pelosi wasn't around, do you think Conyers would be next
in line?
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:16 PM
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11. Maybe...maybe not
The Blue Dog Democrats put up their own guy last time.
He might have been the one.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:39 AM
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25. No,he's never sought a leadership position in the house
always been a committee guy. There are times he has not even wanted to be in the House having run for Mayor of Detroit and losing badly.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:16 PM
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12. Wow, tough crowd in here tonight. Not much love for Conyers.
Hmmmm....:eyes:
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:19 PM
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14. What are you talking about? The fact that no one here wants to jump
on the Conyers for Speaker bandwagon - that Conyers isn't even on - means there's no love for him?

Why are you so obsessed with this?
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:23 PM
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17. It's just curious to see how defensive everyone is at even the question.
That's all it was, was a question. And the answers just seemed short, defensive, as if Conyers shouldn't even be considered.

I find it strange because through out these last 5 years there have been so many threads of people boasting about there love for Conyers, but when it comes to the suggestion or question of leadership, the only answers are from people distancing themselves from him - no explanations - just a shutdown.

Seems kind of rude. And a shame.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:26 PM
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18. I would far better like Conyers as chair of Judiciary.
That is not a slur, it is a compliment. There is no place I would rather see him, and it is not because I would not like him as speaker, it is because I expect he will do far more damage on Judiciary.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:29 PM
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20. Your assuption doesn;t follow. He's great - He wants Judiciary, I want him
on Judiciary. He will do a great job.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:29 PM
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19. He's better as the committee chairman
You want someone as Speaker who is good at playing on the big picture and being the new anti-President. For chairmanships you want experts and attack dogs in those positions. John Conyers I feel fits better in the latter instead of the former.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:42 PM
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22. Good points. I can agree with that assessment.
:thumbsup: Thanks for the answer supported with level headed arguments - for a minute there I was wondering what forum I was in. :hi:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-09-06 11:50 PM
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23. because i want to see him kick ass on committees
he is more of an investigative details type of guy. want to see him take on people in hearings.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:45 AM
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26. we need him to chair the Judiciary Committee
and kick some Republican butt.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:53 AM
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27. Conyers would much rather be chairman of the judiciary committee
And I am looking forward to his leaving his mark on history in that capacity.
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