Lieberman's Opposition in 2000 and 2006 Received the EXACT Amount of Votes

[The Bastard1]

CNN 2006 Connecticut Election Results — 448,077 votes


FEC 2000 Connecticut Election Results — 448,077 votes


http://www.teambio.org/2006/11/liebermans-opposition-in-2000-and-2006-received-the-exact-same-amount-of-votes/

[Anser]

1. That's odd

[The Bastard1]

2. You're telling me

I mean what are the odds?

[Chipper Chat]

3. I dont buy all this nice talk that Joe wont bolt the party.

Joe is FOR JOE and JOE only. He can become KING if he just switches parties.
Loyalty means NOTHING to Holy Joe or he would have graciously accepted Lamont as the primary winner.
The Senate Dem leadership better have a contingency plan - like wooing the two Maine ladies.
If Joe does it I dont wanna hear "who could have seen this coming?" from Harry & Schumer as they dismantle the freshly-hung new blue drapes.

[The Bastard1]

5. Well

I think he might switch considering Pelosi said she will not put any Dem Hawks on high ranking committees. I know that is in the House but I wonder what Reids feelings are? If they are the same then Joe ain't going no where and might switch.

[Chipper Chat]

6. Suddenly Joe is not so hard-line on the war anymore.

Hmmm - JUST LIKE BUSH!!!
I really think they call each other up at night.

[w4rma]

14. *Senator* Reid will be Senate Majority Leader. *Representative* Pelosi will be Speaker of the House

I forgot who the Senate Majority Leader and Senate Whip will be.

It is the Senators who make that decision. House Representatives (even the highest ranking ones), the President nor members of the Judicial Branch do not even factor into assignment of Senate leadership positions.

[Maven]

10. Paging Olympia Snowe. nt

[left is right]

11. I honestly don't believe he should be given a chance to bolt

I say cut him adrift on January 1 and let him caucus with whomever will have him

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[Maven]

13. Plus, he would face far greater challenges getting reelected as a Republican

in Connecticut.

He beat Lamont because he got a combination of Democratic votes and Republican "spoiler" votes. But he wouldn't get nearly as many Dem votes if he aligned himself formally with the right. Just wouldn't happen.

[Chipper Chat]

17. Well, excuuuuuuuuuse me!

I guess you know Holy Joe better than I do.
Excuse me for thinking DU was a forum for all ideas and opinions.

[cali]

25. got any response to

the argument I presented? Or just defensive snark?

[Tiggeroshii]

4. wow... n/t

[ArbustoBuster]

7. Interesting.

Do we have a stastistician around who can tell us what the odds of this are?

[laconicsax]

8. Who wants to start a conspiracy theory thread? NT

[merwin]

9. K&R

Damn that's one hell of a coincidence

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[MGD]

16. We need to find out what he wants and let him know that we have the power to giveth and taketh away.

And we do have that power now.

[Zhade]

18. ...until he decides to go to the Republicans.

Holding us hostage, the fucker.

[Zhade]

19. That's really quite weird.

NT!

[Renew Deal]

20. The odds have to be astronomical.

:wow:

[Robeson]

21. Do we have a statistician who could calculate the odds of that here on DU...

...given all the facts of new voters since the last race, and a thousand other variables?

[Freddie Stubbs]

22. And yet CT doesn't use electronic voting

[mhatrw]

32. But they do use electronic tabulating. Just like everyone else. n/t

[No Exit]

23. Thank you for posting this. If this is accurate, I'd like to see it investigated.

Previous to learning this, I had noticed that Lieberman has at least twice had, pitted against him, republican candidates who couldn't possibly win.

I believe the Giordano guy, Lieberman's previous opponent, is now a convicted felon. Isn't he the guy who was molesting little girls or something like that, and it was going on during the campaign? Then there was Schlesinger, whose gambling issue was absolutely glaring.

I believe that the fix was in when those opponents were placed against Lieberman. I also believe that AIPAC or a similar entity had something to do with it--in collusion with the republicans themselves, of course. I believe AIPAC and the republicans definitely want Lieberman to continue in congress.

What intrigues me is to wonder exactly who among Lieberman's enablers/beneficiaries also had enough pull with OUR party to get Lieberman placed as VP candidate.

[DianaForRussFeingold]

26. I Hate To Say This But My Mom Always Said It Was Lieberman Who Made Gore Lose 2000 Election

I always thought my mom's intuition was pretty good! Faux News sure loves LieBerman! Do you think he will vote with the Democrats or against them like he usually did when he was a Democrat? I would hate to bet my life on that. You know what they say about birds of a feather

[No Exit]

29. Quite possibly true.

I knew little of Lieberman when he ran with Gore in 2000. Since then, due to his constant (and jarring) presence in the media, I have learned much.

IMO, he has come to embody (whether fairly or unfairly) the image of an invisible Third Political Party in our politics. Yes, I am talking about Israel. Lieberman is not the only member of congress who takes large favors, and is therefore somewhat beholden, to Israel. It now seems obvious that there are quite a few such members, on both sides of the aisle, and in the executive branch as well. Lately, IMO, this invisible third party has been shamelessly promoting war and death.

But, I am comforted by the realization that not only are there different opinions of war among American Jews--and I believe the vast majority of them are against it--but I think there are even different opinions of war/bloodshed among the smaller subset of Israelis. I think the anti-war, anti-bloodshed Israeli citizens are suppressed and muzzled, just as our own anti-war citizens were for so long.

Russ Feingold is an example, to me, of the sort of person for whom I would not hesitate to cast a presidential vote. I am starting to see that there are enemies of the neocons among both Jews and Gentiles. To me, that's good news.

Lieberman, however, is a "ME FIRST" kind of guy. In this, he is like the current power elite of Israel. It's all about what THEY want, and other people's little lives be damned. (Makes me think Murdoch must be one of these, since he thinks that other people's kids dying in war is "minute".)

I hope that this huge win we're experiencing is a win not only for us, but for reason and peace among the ruling elite of Israel. God knows, the Israeli people could use some real progress.

[lyonn]

31. Maybe this Dem. win will be an eye opener for Lieberman

Maybe he will realize he is leaning towards the losing party. His alliance with Israel could be his main interest or it could be his ego. When he was chosen for VP he strutted like he had been nominated for President. Couldn't keep his mouth shut, kept spouting how religious and moral he was, contrary to the bad Clinton. (SARCASM) He darn sure didn't help Gore.

[No Exit]

35. Gawd yes! Hence his nickname "Holy Joe".

I disliked him then--mostly for his whiny way of speaking--and I dislike him now, for his backstabbing of his own party, and for his two-faced-ness.

Meanwhile, that other Lieberman (over in Israel) is helping (some would say, embodying) the cause of fascism... and the beat goes on...

[DianaForRussFeingold]

33. Thank you for bringing up those points. Wow,

I know you won't believe this,but today my only thought was he was a Dem turncoat,with loyalties toward the Repugs instead of the Democrats and his Constituents in Connecticut. You sure made me think though. I guess it was too much to want our leaders to live up to that unreachable ideal,we place on them to be historically great like Kennedy -John and Bobby-were! However, I still have great faith that Dean, Feingold, Obama, Clark and of course our new soon to be speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi. The House and the Senate will see Nancy's plan, as a much more Patriotic plan for America, than the bush,rove and cheney plan, which is - destroying our constitutional rights and unfounded wars. Nancy's "100 Hour Plan- THIS Is What America Voted For!

Everyone in the house and Senate should try and make this happen for the good of us all. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2633086

[No Exit]

36. Yes, we can bask for a while--the hope is still alive! And it's great!

[Ice4Clark]

24. I've been trying to find the results for the 2000 election by county

all night. CNN only has 99% of the vote results online by county for CT in 2000. I already emailed this to KO hours ago and begged him to investigate and contact some statiticians on this. I provided him with some links and images to check out.

I feel that it's not so much the paper trail as the TABULATOR. It's how the votes are added. We could cast them and get a piece of paper saying yep I voted for Joe Blow, but I think it's how they are totaling the numbers at the end. I would think it would be easy to fudge that part. The other case in point, is that CNN's numbers are NOT official, whereas the FEC are. Still, they match. I'm sure it will be awhile before OFFICIAL totals are posted at FEC. Someone needs to be asking the the media questions on how 2 elections, 6 years apart, can total the same number of votes cast for challengers of Joeloseman............I don't suppose any of that petty cash went for an adding machine? ya think?

[Old and In the Way]

27. 200,000 less votes too.

I don't remember hearing about Lieberman's race in 2000, yet there was a much higher turnout. That's a lot of Republican votes to migrate to Joe - 350,000. Hmmmmmm.

[onenote]

30. 2000 was a presidential election year

turnout is always higher in a presidential year than an "off-year" election. Always.

[Ice4Clark]

28. I've built a spreadsheet with 2000 and 2006 election data

I finally found 2000 by county. I'm going to take a break and then go back and look at it. I'm not a statistician, but something really smells here...........

[bigwillq]

34. Wow, that is crazy.

:wtf: