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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:26 AM
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Rove sees Dem victory as "much more of a transient, passing thing"
http://time-blog.com/allen_report/



Exit polls showed heavy discontent with the course of the war, and Bush announced the departure of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld the next day. But Rove took comfort in results of the Connecticut Senate race between the anti-war Democratic nominee, Ned Lamont, and Sen. Joseph Lieberman, who ran as an independent after losing the Democratic primary over his support for the war. "Iraq mattered," Rove says. "But it was more frustration than it was an explicit call for withdrawal. If this was a get-out-now call for withdrawal, then Lamont would not have been beaten by Lieberman. Iraq does play a role, but not the critical, central role."

And he does not believe his data let him down. "My job is not to be a prognosticator," he said. "My job is not to go out there and wring my hands and say, 'We're going to lose.' I'm looking at the data and seeing if I can figure out, Where can we be? I told the President, 'I don't know where this is going to end up. But I see our way clear to Republican control.' "

Rove, who is Deputy Chief of Staff and Senior Adviser to the President, had long been warning in speeches that Democrats suffered defeat in 1994 after ossified thinking and an entitlement mentality took over the party: "What I was trying to say was: What happened to them could happen to us," he told TIME. White House Counselor Dan Bartlett said Bush is "deeply appreciative for the time and effort put in by Karl, and for all the political team's effort." Bartlett pointed to the President's statement at his day-after news conference that as the head of the Republican Party, he shares a large part of the responsibility. "He's not the one that's going to sit there and point fingers at others," Bartlett said.

Despite this week's repudiation of the GOP, Rove said he believes the party can still achieve a long-term majority. "I see this as much more of a transient, passing thing," he said. "The Republican Party remains at its core a small-government, low-tax, limit-spending, traditional-values, strong-defense party. I see the power of the ideas, even in a tough year." He added that he has "fundamental confidence in the power of the underlying agenda of this President," and cited fighting the war on terror, entitlement reform, energy, tax cuts, immigration reform, No Child Left Behind reauthorization, democracy agenda in the Middle East, reducing trade barriers, spending restraint and legal reform.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:28 AM
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1. He'd naturally say that
It's just spin. Move along, folks. More Republican rationalization.
Ringo
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HaggardsMethDealer Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:30 AM
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2. I hope Republicans bookmark this tripe.
It will be like reading the final days of the Nixon staffers when they were still defending Vietnam.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:37 AM
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3. The GOP base is completely fractured
They have no cohesive elements. W's agenda ain't going nowhere and he better get used to it.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:53 AM
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4. Can't wait till they frog march that punk..
He's finished. He just doesn't know it yet.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 04:22 AM
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5. Bullshit...!
Quote:
The Republican Party remains at its core a small-government, low-tax, limit-spending, traditional-values, strong-defense party

I won't bore anyone with taking apart this statemnt. The fact of who said this and when--during a time of record spending on the part of this administration, is a huge contradiction in itself.

All I can say is, "Dude, stop sniffing glue!"
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 04:31 AM
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6. I suppose he's got THE math for that assertion, too.
Here, I fixed his picture:

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Bullshot Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:14 AM
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11. Hey Karl, if you want it to look like Condi has bunny ears, it's TWO fingers.
Geez,this guy could screw up a wet dream right now.
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American Jesus Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 04:31 AM
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7. Enjoy the spotlight while you can, KKKarl
Because Poppy's back in charge of the Bush Crime Family, and he's fired your ass twice before.
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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:06 AM
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12. Wow...that thought never crossed my mind, but you're RIGHT...
:patriot:

It really is sad when a 60 year old man needs to have his daddy step in and clean up his mess.

And as much as I loath Poppy Bush, part of me wonders what he's been thinking for the past 6 years. In print it's all been "I love my son and the president can do no wrong." In real life, he's probably wanted to kick his ass over and over and over again.

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 04:49 AM
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8. Rove sees reality as a "transient, passing thing." He needs his meds
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 04:50 AM by McCamy Taylor
adjusted. I believe Fitz let him off, because his defense attorney copped a not guilty by reason of severe depression causing organic brain syndrom defense. Just a hunch. How else could "Bush's Brain" get away with claiming that he forgot so many things? And I think it was not a lie. Rove is not all there. Right now he is riding a manic high.

Rove: Weeeee! Look at meeeee! I have THE math!


Maybe Rove and Dan Burton should get together to shoot some melons. For therapy.
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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:09 AM
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13. That line about "THE" math...
...will become Rove's defining statement. Just as he tried to ruin Dean with "I have a scream" and Kerry with "I voted for it before I voted against it," Roves assertion that his SPECIAL poll information was the crystal ball CONFIRMING a GOP victory will haunt this fat boy for the rest of his wretched days.

:patriot:
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:29 AM
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9. The core values of conservatism is greed and selfishness and that is what always does them in.
They talk about limited government and low taxes and spending and values like those ideals stand on their own merits yet they use government to spy on citizens and trash the constitution, raid the treasury and tax the working class to pay for it all the while their baser instincts go unchecked. The repub party is the lying party that takes advantage if the ignorance of average people to enrich themselves.
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:01 AM
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10. I believe he has that mixed up.
The "transient passing thing" belongs to the republican party. I doubt they'll have that kind of power again for a very long time. They can run campaigns, but they can not govern and the people now know it.:toast:
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:38 AM
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14. A week ago said he couldn't see it coming at all, not much of an expert prognosticator.
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 10:40 AM by FreeStateDemocrat
Either that or he is just a lying, fat, bag of shit, maybe both.
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