So we impeach bu$h and he is found guilty.

[RC]

He is removed from office. He retires to his pig farm or where ever. Then what? How is bu$h punished for his wrong doing and war crimes? What has impeachment really accomplished, besides Dems being charged with "revenge" for what they did to Clinton?

In other words what sentence can bu$h be subject to by impeachment?

[NoPasaran]

1. Following removal from office, he would be subject to prosecution

Following removal from office, he would be subject to prosecution in the regular criminal and/or civil courts. But I don't think impeachment and removal from office are very likely.

[Ignacio Upton]

2. Paraguay might not have an extradition treaty

So if the rumors of the Bushes buying land down there are true, then he's going to retire there, sadly enough.

[Karaokedude]

3. Legal - I think?

I believe the only punishment of impeachment is removal from office.

Any other situation has to be prosecuted under normal criminal statues. The odds are there would be a blanket pardon as there was by Ford of Nixon.

That's it.

[Selatius]

4. First, you got to launch congressional investigations (or probes)

Once that is done, then you impeach if the evidence is clear he broke the law (or several). I believe the evidence will be clear he did break the law.

The 2 questions are, in light of the evidence, will Dems issue Articles of Impeachment if it suggests Bush et al. broke the law and will Repubs in the Senate give Dems the 2/3rds majority needed to remove the president?

[leftofthedial]

5. he has committed treason

and could be prosecuted

(assuming whoever Poppy appoints to be the replacement "president" doesn't pardon him)

[yojon]

6. Problem is that he is a figurehead

If he and Cheney go, the real power is still in place. I dont know who this 'second government' might be. Seems like James Baker has something to do with it, as does Poppy.

Certainly these monsters have committed horrible crimes against the Constitution, the American people and the Iraqis and they deserved to be tried as war criminals. Probllem is that the second government would come up with monsters to replace them.

Sigh..

[Stinky The Clown]

7. Impeachment would be more symbolic and most meaningful on the world .....

... stage. We're an international pariah. And the hatred and/or disgust for our leadership is fast being transferred to each of us solely because we're American.

If we hope to get back some of our former international prestige, we need to something that the whole world understands - remove him and his administration from office.

This is NOT about payback for Clinton. If that's why anyone supports impeachment, they'll get an argument from me .... and I favor impeachment right now, but NOT for that silly, juvenile, schoolyard reason.

[Bitwit1234]

8. He might not be removed from office

Remember they did not remove President Clinton and Andrew Jackson.

[suston96]

11. Andrew Jackson?

"Remember they did not remove President Clinton and Andrew Jackson."

Andrew Jackson was not impeached.

[mtnsnake]

9. So what's your point? That we shouldn't bother to hold him accoutable for heinous

crimes?

[stevedeshazer]

10. This is a fantasy

It won't happen.

He either must be forced to resign or submit to being politically castrated (the latter has already happened).

To 'impeach' means 'to accuse'.

Even on the event of impeachment by the House, which requires a two-thirds majority we don't have, the Senate must conduct a trial, presided by Chief Justice John Roberts. A two-thirds majority is required to convict.

Conviction means, simply, removal from office. Nothing more.

I wish people would give up this ridiculous scenario; it has NO chance of happening in the next two years. None. Nada.

Read yer Constitution.

I'm holding out for war crimes tried internationally.

I know my view on this is unpopular here, but I am right.

Disagree? Tell me how I'm wrong here.

[RC]

12. Thank you

Someone gets it. The reason for starting this thread was to see if anyone else around here got it. :toast:

[Heewack]

13. Yep, impeachment talk is counter-productive.

There is nothing to be gained by impeachment. We have two years to try to correct the mistakes that have been made. Why waste time on the past?

[VOX]

17. "Why waste time on the past?" Because the "mistakes" are criminal!!! n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

14. Article 1/section 3:

Please click here.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

[Pyrzqxgl]

15. I'd rather Democrats make his life so stressful in the coming months that he quits

or gets an ulcer, has a stroke, or gets the 7 year itch, or the blue ball or something

[AndyTiedye]

16. Send Them to the Hague

They'll issue themselves/each other pardons before impeachment takes effect.
The Supreme Court would probably let them do it.
Congress wouldn't be too happy about that, and could very well decide to
allow the International Criminal Court to have jurisdiction in the matter.

The International Criminal Court was made for people like Bush** and Cheney.

I know I have been posting these pictures a lot lately.

[Auntie Bush]

18. How about sending him on a hunting trip with dead eye dick?

Or with dead dick Dick?