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Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:10 PM
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Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) giggles through Iraq War segment, Tweety says "It‘s not funny, it‘s a war"
Unfortunately, you really need the visuals on this. She giggled through the entire segment and Tweety finally let her have it. What a pitiful excuse for a human being...as well as a Congresswoman.

:grr:

http://www.house.gov/blackburn/



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15699444/

MATTHEWS: Let me go to Congresswoman Blackburn. What do you think the president should give to the Democrats in terms of Iraq policy to forge a coalition? What‘s his piece of this?

BLACKBURN: Well, you know, Chris, I think that the president made the right move. He made a rational, practical decision when he accepted Secretary Rumsfeld‘s resignation, because he had to make a choice. Was he going to put the focus on being certain that we finish our work in Iraq and finding a way to work with the Democrats on this, or was he going to sit there and have the bickering over Secretary Rumsfeld and how he had gone about handling the issues in Iraq?

And when I talked to so many people and a lot of women, they say, you know, we understand why we have to fight the global war on terror. Did America make mistakes in Iraq and did we do everything right? You know, are there things that should be done differently?

We can sit there and debate all of those nuances and quite frankly, Chris, I think it‘s very good that the American people are engaged in that debate. And we have to accept the fact that, yes, indeed, they have spoken. Now I thought it was very interesting today that Iraqi President Talabani came out and said that when he visited Washington last month, he was assured by the Democratic leaders that they were not going to push for a hasty and quick exit from Iraq.

MATTHEWS: But do you think we should have entered Iraq?

BLACKBURN: Do I think we should have entered Iraq?

MATTHEWS: Yes.

BLACKBURN: Well, you know, you go back and you look at what we knew then and the decisions, the matrix that you have for making that decision at that point. And if I were there—I would...

MATTHEWS: ... Do you really believe—I‘m sorry, do you really believe that we went into Iraq because we thought they might have a nuclear device they could deliver across the Atlantic Ocean from around the world on some sort of glider plane or whatever they were talking about? Do you really think they had the ability to hit the United States with a nuclear weapon?

BLACKBURN: Chris, I can tell you right now that one of the things that went into that decision matrix for so many members of Congress, and had I been there, I certainly believe I would have felt the same way—we have to look at our national security, protecting our people, looking at what happened to us on September 11, and not forgetting that on September 11, we stopped responding to acts of terrorism as acts of civil disobedience, which had been done through Republican and Democrat administrations going back to 1978.

MATTHEWS: I‘m just asking you a fundamental question. Do you believe we should have—before we talk about exit strategies, did you believe we should have entered Iraq? Do you think knowing what you know now, knowing everything you know now, would you have voted with the president to go into Iraq?

BLACKBURN: Chris, but you‘re asking for something—you‘re asking for different decision matrixes. Going back then, of course, when you look at what was on the table then, Chris, and the decisions that were made, and look at the concerns over security of this great nation, going into Iraq was the right thing to do.

MATTHEWS: I‘m asking you would you have voted for knowing all you know now—in other words, you haven‘t answered me. You said that knowing all that you know now, you would have gone into Iraq. Why is it funny? It‘s not funny, it‘s a war.

BLACKBURN: I don‘t find it funny, it is very, very serious.

MATTHEWS: But why don‘t you answer my question? Should we have gone into Iraq?

BLACKBURN: I have answered your question.

MATTHEWS: What‘s the answer, yes or no?

BLACKBURN: Going into Iraq, yes, you go into Iraq because you have a situation there that has to be addressed. You have a situation in the Middle East that is going to be address it. As one of my constituents said last week, you know, you‘ve got to be certain that we‘re not fighting the war on terrorism here in America.

MATTHEWS: OK.

BLACKBURN: And you‘ve got to fight that. They have had a 20-year head start.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:12 PM
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1. And she has the most IRRITATING voice I have heard in some time, too NT
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:14 PM
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5. Yep She is horrible
Just the poster child the GOP needs to make sure America gets it
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:25 PM
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7. As bad as Sen. Susan Collins (R) Maine?
I can't listen to her for more than 10 secs.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:38 PM
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12. Ole Shaky McQuavering herself? No, it's a different kind of irritating!! NT
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:13 PM
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2. What the hell is a decision matrix? Why do they use all these
stupid made-up-on-the-spot phrases? To cover up thier ignorance.

I think I just answered my own question.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:49 PM
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13. They actually exist. They're a management tool of debatable utility
You've seen them--they are full of boxes and triangles and so forth, with questions pointing to answers, they've got arrows all over hell and they are supposed to guide you through the process of making a decision.

We used to have one in the service that was funny as hell. It went something along the lines of

Did you do the work?--------> Yes. -------> Finish.

No? Can you find someone else to blame? Yes. Finish.

NO? You're SCREWED....
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 03:05 PM
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14. Oh crap, I know what you're talking about. Sort of like
an idiot's flow chart.

People who come up with crap like that just do it to keep themselves either 1) entertained; or 2) employed.

I doubt that anyone pays attention to it though. Not anyone who knows what they're doing anyway.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 06:15 PM
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17. She thinks it's so neat-o that she knows the catchphrase "decision matrix."
She's showing the phrase off for her friends so they can think she's so cool. :eyes:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 12:15 PM
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19. And here's the TRUTH of the matter--those stupid things are SO 1980's
The Navy was big on that shit...back in the 80's and 90's. They FORCED everyone to learn about it and implement the methodologies into their leadership roles (what a crock of shit, frankly--sometimes an asschewing is the fastest way to correct behavior, not pointing out that someone wasn't meeting their productivity goals...they adopted the whole process from an old dude named Deming who sold it to the Japanese hook, line and sinker. It works better on factory machinery than it does on people, though).

You know that when the military has used and pretty much abandoned those quality management techniques that they aren't the latest thing. It's like some poor old slob chasing a bunch of kids off of his stoop with "Hey, you punks--you think you're groovy, far-out hep cats but you're nothing but jokers and uncool dudes!" He thinks he's "up with the lingo" but he's just grasping for terms he thinks might make him seem more 'with it.'

In the case of this woman, I agree with your line of thinking--that she was trying to dazzle with bullshit, in essence. She probably heard the term at one too many strategy meeting and just HAD to spit it out.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:14 PM
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3. She was positively sickening!!
I saw that show. She kept fillibustering and at one point, they had a shot of Matthews while she was yammering on and on and on and on. He was looking at the other guest like, "What do we have to do to get her to shut up!!!" IIRC, it was right before her giggling.

I'm hoping Matthews told his producer, "Never again! Do NOT put her on ever again!"
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 05:28 PM
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16. No, put her on and expose her as a complete fraud
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:14 PM
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4. And she came back with 66% of the vote last week
:puke:

All Republican women officeholders, certainly in the House, when they get up to the podium have this vicious, evil look plastered on their faces. They scare me more than the Repuke men
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:37 PM
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11. As someone from her State pointed out to me
Her district, Tenn 7 has been massaged into a very safe area for brain dead republiclowns of which she is Exhibit A.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:16 PM
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6. I saw that segment
She was annoying and evasive. She kept talking and talking and talking but didn't say anything. She reminded by a little of Katherine Harris in that she seemed divorced from reality.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:28 PM
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8. The terrorists have had a 20-year head start?
Hmmm, when did the Republicans finally gain control of one of the houses of Congress? Wasn't it 20 years ago in 1986? And who was president at that time? Ronald somebody-or-other. Anyone remember what party he belonged to?

What is Ms. Blackburn saying when she says that terrorists have had a 20 year head start? Are their methods and capabilities better than our spending a billion dollars a day on defense? Could we learn something from the terrorists about efficiency if they're so far ahead of us, as Ms. Blackburn asserts? Why hasn't Congress done anything about this in the last 20 years, Ms. Blackburn?
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:29 PM
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9. Yet Tweety himself has laughed at the war on many occasions.
I'm glad he called this latest blonde bimbette on her shit, but it's the pot calling the kettle black, IMO.
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Hav Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 01:31 PM
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10. .
Edited on Mon Nov-13-06 01:32 PM by Hav
So she basically says that despite the things that she knows now, it doesn't matter, her decision would still remain on the false info she had before the war. Information that she knows turned out to be wrong, but still, we should have gone to war based on the information that we know is wrong...because of September 11? Wah??!?
Help! Going to war based on lies doesn't make any sense at all!
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rep the dems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 03:19 PM
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15. Ha, I saw that part. Stupid woman trying to laugh and be
charming so she can avoid the question. Ugh.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 06:22 PM
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18. I'm sure it's hillarious when it's other peoples' kids that are fighting the war
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