Rove's October surprise...Iran?

[BrewAz]

What was the Rove “October Surprise? Did I miss it?

Was it supposed to be a war in Iran…following the Israeli attack on Lebanon? Once the Israeli’s marched through Lebanon and chased the Hezbollah in Iran and Syria…they would keep on going. The administration could then justify supporting our ally (Israel) with air patrols and bombing from our fleet in the Persian Gulf.

Why else would Condi/Rummy and Bush drag their feet for 2-3 weeks before they went to the UN? All sounded fishy to me…Another War during the election would have been a Repub wish….

The only problem was that Hezbollah thwarted the Israeli effort…and the October Surprise ended up being a November Purge.

Thoughts?

[KingFlorez]

1. The surprise was, he didn't have one

[Behind the Aegis]

2. Hizb'allah works for the Israelis, Karl Rove?

[endarkenment]

6. No I don't think that was the OP's point.

I believe his theory is that the plan was that Israel would attack Lebanon, crush Hezbollah, draw in Syria, and get their war on with Iran, and that this wider mideast war would then carry bushco on to victory.

I don't particularly buy into this theory as I don't think Karl is that clever. Anyway this theory doesn't require Hezbollah complicity. The border incident that was Israel's public excuse for their little expedition was just that, a public excuse, and they could have used any similar incident to start their long planned campaign to shock'n'awe hezbollah into extinction.

Karl's big surprise was Death To Saddam, which was rather pathetic.

[Behind the Aegis]

8. The theory does have to include Hizb'allah as complicit.

It was Hizb'allah that attacked first. Without that, anything else is simply speculation.

[endarkenment]

9. Border incidents, by both sides, were part of the normal state

of affairs. You know that as well as I. The 'they started it' game is ridiculous. Olmert had his operation ready to go waiting for a reasonable public excuse. But we are not going to agree.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

3. America's November Surprise

Bye-Bye!

[Bluestar]

4. I think Poppy put a stop to it

From everything I read, from aircraft carriers steaming to the Gulf to squadrons of fighter jets being deployed closer to the Middle East, I think it was planned for October. But about the time that the "Iraq Group" convened (60 days ago or so?) I think it was stopped. Just my theory.

[tblue]

5. The Saddam verdict. It was supposed to mask massive vote corruption & suppression

Saddam was supposed to justify the surprise GOP upset. Melm*n's warnings to ignore exit polls was almost a confession that he knew the vote was being fixed. And that legendary GOTV army? That wasn't intended to get out the vote as much as to stifle the vote in black and hispanic areas. They succeeded in stealing and depressing a LOT of votes, just not quite enough. They did not anticipate the enormous groundswell of votes for Democrats, or how much the country wants rid of Neocon rule.

[snowbear]

7. I think he tried to have surprises.. but Americans didn't buy them...

They kept harping on about the thwarting of the "would-be" terrorists on the London flight and how it would have been worse than 9/11.

.... didn't work.

They killed the #2 Al Qaeda leader hundreds of times.

.... didn't work.

They located a new oil source off the Gulf of Mexico the very day the elections started.

.... didn't work.

Benankie's rosey outlook on the economy, not raising interest rates, and lower gas prices knocked the DOW off the charts.

.... didn't work.

They announced the Suddam Hussein verdict two days before the election.

.... didn't work.

And I know there were other things they tried.. but that's all I can remember right off the bat..