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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:07 PM
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BBC: Iraq ministry hostages 'tortured'
Iraq ministry hostages 'tortured'

16 November 2006, 17:38 GMT


There is tight security around academic premises in Baghdad


Iraq's higher education minister has said he fears some ministry workers kidnapped by gunmen on Tuesday have been tortured and killed.
Abd Dhiab said up to 80 remained in captivity, while some of those who had since been released were badly beaten.

They were among scores of workers taken hostage when the gunmen raided an education ministry building in Baghdad.

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In an interview with the BBC, Mr Dhiab said he was "very much concerned" for the remaining captives' well-being.
He said there were "rumours and reports that some of them have been killed, even a number of those who have been freed were treated very badly, some of them had their legs and hands broken".

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In continuing bloodshed in Baghdad, police said gunmen opened fire on customers and workers in the bakery in the religiously-mixed neighbourhood of Zayouna.
Most bakeries in the capital are run by members of Iraq's Shia majority and are frequently targeted by Sunni militants.
"The gunmen stormed into the bakery and killed workers while they were baking. They had done nothing bad," the Associated Press news agency quoted an unnamed man outside the store as saying.

In other violence, at least three civilians were killed in two explosions elsewhere in the capital.
A bomb attached to a motorcycle exploded in the Amal neighbourhood, killing at least one person, while a blast on Palestine Street in the east of the city killed two others.

The US military also announced the deaths of four of its soldiers in Iraq.
Two were killed by a roadside bomb and another was killed in action in north-east Diyala province on Wednesday; a fourth died in an operation in Baghdad on Tuesday.



This makes me sick to my stomach. This is totally out of control.

And * is cavorting in Singapore, once again, blissfully unconcerned about the hell on earth he has wrought.

Impeachment is OUR tool, people. It isn't discretionary. It must be used to stop this madman, because if we do not, he will destroy us all.




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Possumpoint Donating Member (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:28 PM
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1. Out of Control - Yes
What would the result of Impeaching G. W. Bush be? Would the troops then be immediately removed? What then, the civil war would immediately stop? I don't think so. In fact, I think it would get worse. Do we have a responsibility to stay and try to fix it? Good question, one I don't know the answer to. My personal opinion is to establish a three way partition, leave and watch the fun begin. To be honest I'd much rather have them killing each other over there then thinking about coming over here.

Knee jerk reactions don't always work either. The theory of getting the Iraqi's to stand up and take care of their own sounds good till you realize due to religious teachings and tribe loyalties there is little allegiance to Iraq left. Sunni vs Shiia hatred is a universal problem in the Islamic world. One I don't think we can solve. Also, Turkey's wouldn't be happy about the Kurds having a homeland adjacent to them.
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 04:43 PM
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2. Biden's partition plan
seems the best solution not that bush has destroyed any chance of a unified country.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 05:47 PM
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3. What good is impeachment? George W. Bush's slash and burn in Iraq and in America will end.
He is putting America in grave danger from attacks of white-hot retribution from newly-created terrorists around the world, for what he willfully created in Iraq. And he shows absolutely no signs of stopping his assault. He is not listening to his generals. He is not listening to his allies. He is not listening to the UN. He is not listening to the American people, when we issued him a wakeup call last week for his deadly policies.

What does he do since the election? He pushes John Bolton back into our faces, to continue bullying the UN. He ignores Poppy's, Baker's and Hamilton's Iraq Group, and decides to create *his own* panel to reassess what to do in Iraq. He again pushes judicial nominations that have been highly questioned. He never wavers from *his resolve* to *win* in Iraq, whatever the hell that means any more.

He just now sent 2,200 more Marines from the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit into the hellhole around Anbar province to die for his lies.


It's time to remove this traitor from his death grip on our White House.

This has been planned chaos from the beginning.



What should we do after he is removed, you ask?


After removing * and Cheney from power, we ask the UN to oversee multinational peacekeepers in Iraq, and our troops then exit from Iraq and the nearby region.

Turn all control of Iraq's oil resources over to the UN, until the day arrives that Iraq can again assume control of this natural resource that indisputably belongs to the Iraqi people.

Abandon plans for the Vatican-sized US embassy in Iraq, and turn the building over to the Iraqis.

Abandon all newly-built military bases in Iraq and turn over their control to the Iraqis.


Under the control of the UN, the US begins payment of reparations to Iraq, for the damage * has inflicted in their country.


THIS is what impeaching and removing * from power will accomplish.




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