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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 05:04 PM
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Total & complete bullshit! Carvilles & DLC talking points - See them lie...
Edited on Sat Nov-18-06 05:18 PM by LaPera
Dean & the DNC of course did give Ford & other "DLC candidate's" money, (though it would never be enough for the DLC, because I believe they had other long term motives operating here)...Since there were other candidates in other states that won because of Dean's 50 state strategy, that the same candidates otherwise would NEVER even of had a chance to compete against republican money under the DLC plan.

What was the DLC was offering, just the same old DLC Dem plan, that Rove had targeted for 2006 and has in the past done quite successfully with the republican owned electronic voting machines even this past election...Don't believe it check it out...

http://electiondefensealliance.org /

But Dean threw Rove & the Republicans off...It seems the corporate sponsored & run DLC was going to go right along with the republicans plan (knowing or unknowing) of targeting just races the Dems had a chance to win, the republican were sitting and waiting for to steal votes, with that old dumb DLC tactics and plan.

But the DLC was much more diabolical in my opinion, they simply wanted to get their Dem candidates elected and then they would easily be able to point the finger at Dean for losing the House by a few seats - Then outs Dean from the DNC and get Carville (Clinton's boy) or some other DLC asshole in as head of the DNC and push for Hillary at the DNC! So the DLC would have ALL the power (DNC & DLC) going into 2008. I don't trust Carville & and his crazy republican wife for a second, they have other motives for lust & power and the spotlight.

And why was Rahn Emmanuel/DLC screaming at Dean at the DNC offices two weeks before the election? Emmanuel wanted Dean to abandon his 50 state strategy in the last two weeks before the elections and screamed loudly at Dean and stormed out angrily.

But, Dean thankfully stood his ground stood his ground...and it put a severe obstacle in Rove & republican plans, just two weeks before the elections…everything changed…Maybe Dean figured out & knew about all of this in advance…whatever, it paid off for us Dems.

This time Dean was too smart & quick for the bastards at the DLC! (and Rove & the republicans as well).

And, as Dean has said we still have to get rid of the easily hack-able electronic voting machines (Diebold, ES&S, etc). And that should be a major part of the new Democratic House's agenda, certainly before 2008.

Cheers to Howard Dean & all the Dem voters in ALL 50 states that made it possible!!
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 05:12 PM
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1. Hillary Still Hasn't Distanced Herself From Carville's Spew
Even Rahm's distanced himself from Carville's crap: Mrs. Clinton's silence speaks volumes, no? I'd still like to know if Carville's on her payroll, but whenever I ask, a lot of people scream and yell that this is an unfair question...

BTW, Mrs. Clinton had many millions in her campaign's coffers that she could have spent, rather than blowing it on running up the score in NY.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 05:14 PM
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2. Yes, you do ask some very good questions!
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 05:33 PM
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3. For Carville to jump on Dean, a fellow Democrat, immediately after winning
both houses, something was up, that screwed with Carville's and the DLC plans for power, that's very apparent.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 05:51 PM
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4. No wonder Rove was so surprised at the election results
He counted up his numbers and his numbers said GOP wins, which would have been the case following Carville's plan. We always followed Carville's plan in the past two decades so Rove expected us to do so again this time.

We always seem to lose following Carville's plan getting fewer and fewer people elected especially down ticket.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 06:05 PM
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5. Excellent point.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 06:06 PM
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6. EXCELLENT point! Dean outfoxed them all and they are PISSED!
Edited on Sat Nov-18-06 06:08 PM by LaPera
Not to mention, Carville's is the Clinton's boy through & through...ANYTHING for them!

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sillyparty Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 06:13 PM
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7. We Hate Them, They Hate Us
We're a Sorry Family.

Let's see where we are. The Dean camp is cheering for Rahm candidates to lose.

Rahm's camp is cheering for Dean candidates to lose.

And the rest of America goes. Who Cares?

Seen any action on how to learn lessons on why either camp's candidates lost.

Here's a hint. Had nothing to do with Dean or Rahm.

I hope the House and Senate are through with this silly game. When will the rest of you.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 06:21 PM
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8. Bullshit! No one was "cheering for Rahm candidates to lose."
Dean wanted ALL Democrats to win, in "ALL 50 states"!!

Where do you get this kind of bullshit, you just signed on...The DLC home page?
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 06:49 PM
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14. "silly" boy just signed up yesterday to start dissing us? Hmmmm??
Where is that avater of the funny little doll with the silly colored hair? Anyone?

:rofl:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 06:34 PM
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11. Sorry, Rape-Publicans have the "hate" votes all locked up. If you want...
...to find haters, go too Freek Rape-Public.

NGU.


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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 06:29 PM
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9. this is the craziest thing I've seen on DU in a very long time
:tinfoilhat:

my brain hurts after reading this nonsense...


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talk hard Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 06:31 PM
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10. it is crazy shit
WTF
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 06:40 PM
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12. So Why did Carville attack Dean so ruthlessly immediately after the election?
Edited on Sat Nov-18-06 06:45 PM by LaPera
An election where the Dem's won the House & Senate...Dean going against the DLC plan and opting to fight in all 50 states...Why did Carville so viciously attack Dean immediately after the big Dem wins?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 06:48 PM
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13. he did it to piss you off
so you then could go on an anonymous internet discussion board to rant and rave for awhile.

It's obvious.
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