Republicans plot to bring down Pelosi ... and Clinton with her

[T_i_B]

Suprise suprise! :eyes:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/19/wus19.xml

Republican strategists plotting their party's comeback after it lost control of Congress have identified the "first lady" of Democrat politics as a key target in the 2008 White House campaign — even though she will not be running.

Senior party operatives told The Sunday Telegraph that they are already co-ordinating plans to attack Nancy Pelosi, the liberal Californian congresswoman and Speaker-in-waiting who suffered a damaging rebuff from her own party caucus last week.

The Republican strategy is not only to undermine Mrs Pelosi's control of the House but also to associate her in voters' minds with Senator Hillary Clinton, the frontrunner for the 2008 Democrat presidential nomination.

"Two years of Pelosi gives a good idea of what four years of Hillary will be like," said Tom DeLay, the Republican powerbroker who ran his party in the House before he was caught up in a lobbyist corruption scandal. "They are both committed liberals and we will make that clear to the American people."

[H2O]

1. Misplaced priority

It appears the priority of the Republican Party is to get back power; nothing more. They have no wish to solve problems at all. It is an addiction for them.

Being all to human, though, we are all subject to this sort of temptation.

Moral: always remember what the true objective is.

[napi21]

2. Hopefully, DeLay will be trying to fight these women from his cell,

and Pelosi can be the one who helps put him there! The Pubs are sooo hungry for POWER they will try everything to destroy their opposition in order to get it.

I hopethe Dems we elected this time recognize that and fightback with the same intensity as they're receiving.

[truthisfreedom]

3. thug propaganda ALWAYS includes this slight. "democrat politics" should read "democratic politics."

idiots. they're planting this bullshit in the UK press, no less.

[Tanner_B.]

6. Good Catch!

"democrat politics" should read "democratic politics."

idiots. they're planting this bullshit in the UK press, no less.

How was The Telegraph to know?

[BootinUp]

4. Democrats should point to these kind of

stories to further minimize the bastards.

[Tanner_B.]

5. What They Really Need To Do

Is invade another Middle Eastern country and stir up the anti-gay marriage debate. And while they're at it, they should seriously introduce a bill to once and for all privatize Social Security. Then they'll really have the voters on their side.

If the next two years are like the 2006 campaign (and the six wild and crazy years preceding it), do you doubt for one second that they can win back the hearts and minds of America?

How many times can you burn down the same building?

[Chipper Chat]

7. Are the ReFLUBricans ganging up on..uh...WOMEN?

Cowards cant attack Harry or Howard or Steny; they're going after the "fragile sex."
Is it just me or do I smell a big giant SEXISM stance here?
What about it ladies of America? I just dont see how this tactic will win over more women to the Grand Ol' Party.

[acmejack]

9. They all hated their Mommies?

Their Sisters beat them up? They are just weird? Boobie envy? Most people like women...

[Demeter]

11. Most People ARE Women

Not convinced by your platitude...based on personal observation, not even most women like women.

[acmejack]

20. What about the other half of us? Or are we not people?

As for women not liking women, I can't speak to that, can I?

[Gman]

8. They're good at getting elected, bad at governing

but they still don't get it that people now see through how they get elected. Running by attacking is an old strategy that worked for a while, but people now know they can't govern. If the more moderate Republicans were to come to the forefront carrying this flag then it may be somewhat effective. The GOP's problem is the radicals are still in firm control of the party and will shout down their own moderates.

[depakid]

10. Republican mysogynists

I have no doubt that they'll appeal to many- especially in certain regions- but overall, their efforts will backfire. This isn't 1955 anymore. Or 1855.

[Vickers]

12. ""They are both committed liberals..."

That's a GOOD thing, you criminal doucehbag!

[Le Taz Hot]

13. OH, well, by all means,

let's not address the glaring negligence, drunken spending of public funds, corruption and incompetency that cost us the 2006 election, let's go after Hillary (an easy target) and Nancy (a not-so-easy target). :wtf:

[MoonRiver]

17. And add to that the fact that about half of them are hypocritical closet gays.

I think we should out every frigging one of them if they start a smear campaign against Pelosi.

There's nothing wrong with being gay, UNLESS, you're a hypocritical shithead who covers one's sexual preference by attacking everything gay.

[zanne]

14. I dread the idea of a timid Democratic majority...

If Dems act the way they've been acting the past six years, we're in real trouble. Not all Dems, but many, went along with the Alpha Republicans out of fear of the Liberal Left undermining their dream of a "centrist" Party. This is what happens when Dems try to be centrists in a government filled with the Radical Right. The Right gobbles up centrists. In this case, "center"="weak".

[Oleladylib]

15. Bring um on..They have GOT to be kidding. Whata they have..wimpy wives. n/t

[DemBones DemBones]

16. Here is the Telegraph contact info, to make them aware that

we are Democrats, our party is the Democratic Party, and that the Republicans started calling us "the Democrat Party" and referring to "Democrat politicians" to insult us, by suggesting that our party is not "democratic" and by emphasizing the letters r-a-t in "Democrat." (Remember the 2000 Bush campaign TV sout featuring the subliminal use of the letters "R-A-T-S" in the background?)

"Democrat" is a NOUN. Democratic is an ADJECTIVE. A NOUN, such as "Party" or "leader" is not modified by another NOUN, but by an ADJECTIVE. "Republican" is one of those words that is both a NOUN and an ADJECTIVE, but the Republicans are not grammatically challenged; they are well aware of what they are doing everytime they say "Democrat party." Some say it was started in 1948 by Joe McCarthy (R), who started the House Committe on Unamerican Affairs" witch hunt that saw "communists" everywhere, ruining many innocent people's careers and lives. The practice was revived by Newt Gingrich and his cohorts in 1994. Newt wrote a manifesto for Republicans on the use of language to smear Democrats.

Brits are undoubtedly unaware of the Republican plot to misuse our party's name. A DUer who uses a Canadian flag avatar asked yesterday or the day before to help a foreigner understand why we were talking about the Democrat/ Democratic issue. I think it was probably in one of the threads about Chris Matthews actually correcting a Republican on his show who said "Democrat Party."
Here's where to send letters:

"If you wish to contact someone featured within the paper, a journalist regarding an article or the Editor, please address a letter to them c/o the relevant desk, i.e. Travel, Features, News, etc., Telegraph Media Group, 111 Buckingham Palace Road, London SW1W 0DT. A reply is not guaranteed in the event of an editorially related enquiry or comment."

We should also contact every network, even FAUX News, and make it clear that we won't be kicked around anymore. We should have done it years ago but now that we control Congress we have a better chance of being listened to. And remember it's a Democratic Congress, too, not a Democrat Congress.

Give the media a lesson in grammar AND manners, making it clear how the Republicans have misused both in a petty attempt to discredit us.

[OregonBlue]

18. Shouldn't that read "Republic Party" plots to bring down Pelosi?

Two can play at that game.

[Bassic]

19. Not surprising.

It's easy to make neo-cons afraid of strong women. The thugs for fast and easy political capital. Let's just hope there are enough intelligent people to overcome them.

[IndianaGreen]

21. What happens if Hillary is not the nominee? What will GOP do?

This confirms my suspicions that the GOP wants Democrats to nominate Hillary. They haven't counted on how much Hillary is disliked by the antiwar left, or by progressives in general.

Let's make sure the GOP fails in this endeavor by nominating someone like Wes Clark, or Barack Obama, or John Kerry, or John Edwards.

[madrchsod]

22. no offense but who gives a shit what this british rag

thinks about pelosi? how many people in the usa reads the telegraph? a few thousand? "the liberal california.....who suffered a damaging rebuff....." once again it goes to show that anyone writing for a right- wing rag needs only a 12th grade education

[OzarkDem]

23. So far, the DLC is helping them

How long will they continue aiding the enemy?

DLC, though it has a smattering of women members, is well known for its sexist public policy. Conservative Dems aren't much different than conservative Republics in that sense.

[ooga booga]

24. Reading Assignment: Newsweek, November 20 issue

I encourage everyone at DU to go and pick up the Nov 20 issue of Newsweek (Bushes 41 and 43 on the cover). Lots of great stuff about the 2006 election. The historical perspective. Projecting into the future. Jonathan Alter has a great piece in there that I think is absolutely definitive. (No surprise there.)

Anyway, it includes a piece on Bill Clinton vs. Newt Gingrich after the 1994 election. OF COURSE, the Republicans will be gunning for the Democrats. The point is that Democrats have to keep outmanuevering them and keep making THEM look bad the way Clinton did. It's politics, and it ain't pretty.