Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Rangel and the draft - a poll.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:28 AM
Original message
Poll question: Rangel and the draft - a poll.
Just trying to gauge what the situation is.
Explanations encouraged.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:34 AM
Response to Original message
1. Clarification
I agree with Rangel, and I have kids, one of whom is near draftable age.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:40 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. So that would be the third choice, no?
Thanks, and I don't think Rangel is doing this to get your draftable age child drafted. He's making a point. I even wonder how much press this will get in the coming week.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #3
13. Agree. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:34 AM
Response to Original message
2. I think he's avoiding the core issue.
The core issue is that we shouldn't be there at all, and while his intent as right, we should stay focused on that issue.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:42 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. I have to agree we shouldn't be there, but until the current admin
admits that, this is one avenue to take. Rangel will take a lot of poop for this comment, but it does keep Iraq on the front burner.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #2
15. You can't force people to care
You can say we should stay focused on the issue that we shouldn't be there at all, but even people who agree with you don't really care until it affects their own lives. Right now it doesn't.

The proposal of a draft should make at least some of them sit up and take notice.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. Underestimating the people...
right now, that's the one thing we can't afford to do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:41 AM
Response to Original message
4. Rangel disagrees with Rangel.
Wouldn't even vote for his own bill.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gogi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:50 AM
Response to Original message
6. People fail to understand that the reason young men still have to...
register is that if the volunteer army can't deal with a given military situation the government can start drafting them to increase the army's manpower. I think if more people realized this they would'nt have been so eager to back Bush's clusterfuck of a war.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:59 AM
Response to Original message
7. Rangel is a Black Korean Vet
telling all Americans that the wars should not be fought on the backs of the few. Go Rangel!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:29 AM
Response to Reply #7
12. When There Was A Draft, Minority Men Largely Fought ...
in disproportionate numbers. The draft did nothing to stop that. And a new draft will do nothing as well.

Bush's daughters will still be getting drunk and celebrating the deaths of poor youth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AJ9000 Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:23 AM
Response to Original message
8. This poll will clarify nothing. It is poorly constructed. nm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:35 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. Yes it is, because this is my 2nd poll in as many years. Rest
assured, it's not scientific. :D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:32 AM
Response to Original message
9. No because it may look like a good idea in theory but...
I honestly do not think it will work. The Republicans can work it to their advantage and especially if it backfires. What would you all say then?


John
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:37 AM
Response to Original message
11. I don't agree with the idea that my generation is comprised of political pawns
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 02:38 AM by WildEyedLiberal
Because I don't think my friends and family should have to go suit up and die for Bush's lie. Do some people not realize the human cost a draft would have? Every death in Iraq is a tragedy, yet some here would willingly inflict that tragedy on more American families just to make a political point?

I find this disturbing on so many levels, and I think Rangel is an idiot for giving the MSM whores a chance to say "Democrats favor escalating the war in Iraq."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:26 AM
Response to Original message
14. I disagree with Rangel because I generally despise the man
He does have a valid point about the draft. I am ambivalent about his tactics.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 02:24 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC