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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:51 AM
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Hey Rangel


How are we going to pay for a draft?
Halliburton, and company, already have the loot.

:shrug:
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Plausible Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:06 AM
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1. Good Grief
We just get control of the House and Senate. We just get hope and Rangel wants to kill it with a draft proposal?

The party that pushes the draft will be the party that never wins another election.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:08 AM
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2. Rangel apparently dislikes being part of the majority
He's doing his best to kill it.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:32 AM
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3. He's the new Chair of Ways and Means. Guess he'll find a way. n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:41 AM
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4. One more time for the politically unschooled
here: Charlie Rangel is using the draft as a rhetorical device to showcase the hypocricy of the repukes and other pro-war types, and to start a national conversation. He knows what he's doing. He is staunchly anti-Iraq war or attacking Iran.
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:47 AM
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5. One-more time for the reality unschooled
Rangel is leaving us WIDE OPEN to be tagged as pro-draft. If Rangel is anti-war, he should be working to cut-off military funding and get the troops home. This is incredibly stupid.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:52 AM
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6. No he's not.
And where have you been? Charlie's been talking about this, and explaining it for 3 years. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:49 AM
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7. I wish people would calm down
He is doing exactly what you said. He is using it as a rhetorical device.
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:13 AM
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8. There's no need for idiotic rhetoric that can blow up in our faces
What's Rangel doing to do THIS time if it's actually brought up for a vote? Run and hide again?

We're in charge come January. Stop funding the war and it's over. What is so difficult about that to comprehend?
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 12:02 PM
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9. It's not going to blow up in our face
Don't you realize that Rangel has enough "NO" votes to kill this if it ever got to the floor for a vote? This was brought up to have the debate.

I don't agree with stopping funding. You harm the troops doing that. If you don't want new troops in harm's way you shouldn't want the older troops to suffer either.

This is not the only conflict that can happen in our lifetime. There could be another conflict that would require another large number of troops. What are you going to do if that happens?
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:10 PM
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10. You are right the pukes have used his draft efforts against Dems in past elections
What party has called for the draft to be re-instated? Forget nuance or intent or national dialog, the voter will only remember, with the pukes help, that the Democratic Party tried to re-instate the draft? Besides the fact that it will not pass, it is only a distraction from focusing on issues that could actually be addressed with meaningful legislation that would make a difference with the working class's everyday life. This election cycle is turning into a tragic lost opportunity because of a lack of discipline by the Democratic congressional leadership. Arrogance in leadership or positions of power is what the public hated about the pukes and now the Democratic ruling class can't handle the responsibility of using power effectively to help accomplish a better life for the working class. I have about given up all hope or interest in our political system, it is ignorant of and out of touch with reality. I need to forget about the whole process since obviously nobody gives a shit about the average American trying to survive in our corporate controlled society.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:39 PM
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13. Right. Rangel knows the bill has no chance of passing
but it puts things back on the table that Chimpy and Friends don't want to talk about.
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sillyparty Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:34 PM
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11. I See
Now we care about money. When we can shred a Dem with it.

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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 01:37 PM
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12. Can't Wait for Randi to talk about this on her show
She gets it.
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