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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:01 AM
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Poll question: A simple binary poll that will be certain to cause discussion and perhaps controversy
There are only two possible answers to this poll.

Yes.

Or No.

Everything else is discussion, nuance, shades of shaded framing, 'yeah, but', 'no, but', and all manner of equivocations. But at the end of all that, it still comes down to two possible, but mutually exclusive answers:

Do you favor shutting down the Pentagon?

Think about your answer before you make it. Think about the ramifications. Think about the money involved. Think about the youth of our country. Think about the security of our borders. Think about our national vulnerabilities. Think about it all and then answer.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:07 AM
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1. My favorite Simpsons quote:
Flanders: "Reverend, is God punishing me?"
Rev. Lovejoy: "Eh... Short answer: 'no' with an 'if'; long answer: 'yes' with a 'but'."
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:08 AM
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2. you cant shut down the pentagon.
we do need to wrest control of it back from serving the military contractors to serving the people of the usa.

every penny they waste or lose track of is our penny. they dont care because right now every penny lost happens to fall into someones hand who is powerful and/or connected. the military industrial complex and the pentagon and budget that feeds it has run amok.

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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:09 AM
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3. We need a Defense Department, we really do; but not a Pentagon.
The Pentagon makes our nation less safe and is a country within a country. The Defense Department should be like the Interior or State, or Agriculture. It should be a government agency equal to the others...
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:34 PM
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8. Would a Hexagon be better?
Beyond that, you're correct. It needs to be like every other agency.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:12 AM
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4. the Pentagon is the de facto Department of War....
We need a fulltime department of defense, but not a fulltime war department.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:35 PM
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9. I think that stance comes from the civilian leadership.
Compare and contrast: The Clinton era to the BushJr era.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:17 AM
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5. No. Since the poll does not allow for qualification, I will not qualify/explain. nt
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:36 PM
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10. The poll doesn't allow for it because there aren't 102,384 choices
That's how many nuances I counted while thinking this up.

I actually never took into consideration the "I don't wanna talk about it" nuance. :shrug:
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:24 AM
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6. It would make a dandy
low income housing, it even has an air shafts/windows for all the apartments. And then there is the money being spent, it's close to 50% of all tax revenues. At least if the building was apartments, the pentagon would become somewhat profitable for the country instead of being a tax drain that by and large only benefits the wealthy.

There are plenty of bases all over the country, we have fiber optic communication if they need to talk to each other. The big bananas can find someplace else to hang their hats, they should be doing all the business they need to do in the Capitol Building or the WH. Any other legitimate business can be done in a Holiday Inn or a HoJos with them living out of a suitcase.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 11:29 AM
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7. The Pentagon is loaded with people
who did not make the next rung on the ladder. They are spending their days until they get the 20 or 25 or 30 years for a pension. It ids one bull shyte session. They are not listened to because the president and vice president are running the war. The bat shyte crazy people are in charge. We are wasting billions for a building full of has beens who never come up with a rational for doing what they are doing. It is nuts on a grand scale.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:38 PM
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11. I'm not sure I get your point
Are you saying the Pentagon is where losers get sent to spend the final days before retirement?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 05:42 PM
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12. It's necessary, but it needs to be gutted and rebuilt (metaphorically, of course)
Start by asking of all Pentagon employees, civilian or military; "Did you ever sign a document that involved giving money to Halliburton in any way, shape, or form?"

Of course, those doing the asking should be in the House of Representatives...
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