Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Fox plans to rip off "The Daily Show" with a "non-liberal" version. Roger Ailes "really likes it."

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:54 PM
Original message
Fox plans to rip off "The Daily Show" with a "non-liberal" version. Roger Ailes "really likes it."
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 03:01 PM by Human Torch
Fox News Channel preps right-leaning satire
By Paul J. Gough

Nov 20, 2006

Fox News Channel might air two episodes of a "Daily Show"-like program with a decidedly nonliberal bent on Saturday nights in late January, with the possibility that it could become a weekly show for the channel. The half-hour show is executive produced by "24's" Joel Surnow and Manny Cota and creator Ned Rice, who previously wrote for "Politically Incorrect" and "Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson" through This Just In Prods. It would take aim at what Surnow calls "the sacred cows of the left" that don't get made as much fun of by other comedy shows.

"It's a satirical news format that would play more to the Fox News audience than the Michael Moore channel," Surnow said. "It would tip more right as 'The Daily Show' tips left." The show was pitched as "This Just In" when it first got life as a 20-minute pilot presentation for Fox Broadcasting Co.'s late-night division. But when that network passed, Surnow said it attracted the attention of Fox News Channel chief Roger Ailes.

"I showed it to Roger, and he really liked it and thought it could work on Fox News if we could make it conform to some of the restraints" of a cable news channel. Fox News Channel confirmed that talks were going on. "Fox News is always looking for new cutting-edge programming ideas," said Bill Shine, senior vp programming at Fox News. "We look forward to working with Joel Surnow on this opportunity." Taped before a studio audience in Los Angeles, the show will feature two co-anchors, actors Kurt Long ("Cuts," "Games Across America") and Susan Yeagley ("Curb Your Enthusiasm," "Reno 911!"). It also will feature person-on-the-street interviews and correspondent reports like other shows. But Surnow said that it's not going to be strictly conservative but more in the spirit of the old and rebellious "Saturday Night Live."

Surnow said the two shows will be completed within the next couple of months and that none of the pilot presentation will be used on air. He said he thinks that it will appeal to millions of people who aren't seeing this type of show on television and that it would skew younger than the normal cable news demographic. "The most exciting thing for us will be that it's going to be fresh," Surnow said.

http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hollywoodreporter.com%2Fhr%2Fcontent_display%2Ftelevision%2Fnews%2Fe3i61fccc799efa3cb7cc70027d80722adf
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:56 PM
Response to Original message
1. Roger Ailes is a Really Funny Comic Actor
Didn't he play Borat's producer in the recent movie?

I'm amazed he agreed to do the whole naked wrestling thing. Incredible stuff.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:56 PM
Response to Original message
2. They're just repeating Lamebawl's ill fated attempt at
televising his brand of "humor." In other words, they'll pick on appearance and mannerisms and skip substance completely.

Because it's Pox, it'll stay on the air much longer than Lamebawl did, even with terrible ratings.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #2
44. Actually Dennis Miller's show is a more recent example of this.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it get cancelled due to low ratings?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:57 PM
Response to Original message
3. Check your title
I think you meant "Right-Leaning", They'll have to go some to beat Jon Stewart. Ha, I can see it now. Visual Free Republic! We could get a few laughs with that I'll bet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #3
13. Great Idea!
We should put freepers in a room with a hidden camera. We could start with a spelling bee. Then on to Freeper Jeopardy, the topics being Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, The Rapture, W, and The Democrat Party.

Oh, I could go on and on. This would be AWESOME.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #3
14. Well, the so-called satire will be "left-leaning," but...
...I changed the term to "non-liberal," also from the article, so hopefully that clears up any confusion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:58 PM
Response to Original message
4. There is already a show for that
It's called South Park.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:58 PM
Response to Original message
5. Oh yeah, that's gonna work.
:eyes:

They'll have to make their jokes so obvious and banal, using very little words so their audience can understand them, that any attempt at satire will fall absolutely flat.

It's gonna be more like the "Fundie Redneck News Show" than anything else.

Good luck with that, Ailes.

:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:58 PM
Response to Original message
6. "Right leaning satire"???
Like "Amos and Andy"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:59 PM
Response to Original message
7. "Jackass" goes political.
Oh, I'm sure it'll be a riot.

NOT.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:59 PM
Response to Original message
8. Impossible - viewers of the Daily Show and Cobert require intelligence
The jokes if there are any would fly right over the heads of the wingers
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 02:59 PM
Response to Original message
9. As if Fox needs more fictional news. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:00 PM
Response to Original message
10. When did FAUX worry about "restraints" of a cable news channel"?
Do they even do any news?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lazyriver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:01 PM
Response to Original message
11. RW satire huh? They could save a lot of money by
just playing re-runs of "Hee Haw".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:01 PM
Response to Original message
12. Democrat bashing from the Fair & Balanced channel.
As if this were a new concept to them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:07 PM
Response to Original message
15. Maybe they can get "Comedienne Rush Limbaugh"
to anchor this innovative program idea!

Fox must be hurting a wee bit more than they are letting on to consider imitating The Daily Show.

I wonder why? :eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jumpoffdaplanet Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:07 PM
Response to Original message
16. The entire Fox network is one huge fake news show
Having a single show combining all the crap from the other Fox show will make the whole channel look stupider than it does now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mitchleary Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. Yes, Are they not just completeing the parody?
Man are they idiots. Wonder how many viewers will take it seriously like i am sure many do with Colbert.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:08 PM
Response to Original message
17. Please please please go head to head against the Daily Show
The talent level at the Daily Show is off the hook anybody would
have a hard time to copy it or its formula.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:10 PM
Response to Original message
18. "The most exciting thing for us will be that it's going to be fresh,"
Fresh steaming right wing satire, exactly what America's been clamoring for. Don't mind the maggots.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. I was thinking of the crisp smell of fresh dog turds on an autumn day! NT
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Human Torch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #18
30. The late actor-slash-actress Divine has a scene with something "fresh"...
...in the movie "Pink Flamingos."

I believe that the new Fox show will be "the same kind of fresh."

;-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:14 PM
Response to Original message
19. Well, it would be "right leaning" if it had a "decidedly nonliberal bent"

Frankly, the left doesn't have an endless supply of sacred cows. The few that exist get their asses handed to them already on South Park, but there's not enough there to make a full-bore show about them. They'll have to broaden their spectrum if they want to make it work. And if they were to be honest, the Daily Show doesn't give those way-off-the-beaten-path types on the left a pass, either. Thus, the whole construct of an opposite number to TDS is a bit flopsweaty-desperate, IMO. And to call a ripoff of TDS mixed with SNL elements and conforming to the 'restraints' of cable "cutting-edge programming" is a bit pathetic, to my mind.

Well, here's hoping they can employ some creativity and get beyond the usual stereotypical leftie gripes, like 'evil smokers' and excessive political correctness. You can't make your living on themes like those, really.

Of course, this sentence caught my eye:
"It's not going to hit you over the head with partisan politics," Surnow said. "It'll hit anything that deserves to be hit."


Sounds like Faux has their finger in the wind...just in case!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:28 PM
Response to Original message
22. Perhaps I'll not be watching the next seasn on f24
And this just horrifies me:

"that it would skew younger than the normal cable news demographic."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. they were talking mental age.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. thanks! I feel better!
:pals:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #26
34. Glad to be of service
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:40 PM
Response to Original message
23. Great, a TV version of Mallard Fillmore
and just as not-funny.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 03:42 PM
Response to Original message
24. for comedy to work one has to have some feeling for the plight
of the common man. The sad sack Chaplin was much funnier than the rich industrialist because Chaplin's humor spoke of the human condition. A poor man kicking a rich man in the butt is a lot funnier than a rich man kicking a poor man in the butt.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. Oh, but the common man kicking the intellectual elitist sushi eater in the butt is
what this will be all about! They're obviously such folks because they don't think the same as Fox news viewers!

Of course...we are talking about Fox news after all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. But it would wear thin if it lacks humanity. Look at what happened to
Andrew Dice Clay and Dennis Miller.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:38 AM
Response to Reply #33
48. That's our little secret SHHHHH!
It will fall on it's face as it insults more and more of it's audience (just as Dice and Miller did) and is left with a small but equally obnoxious base of clueless sheeple.

;-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #48
51. Of course it will be propped up with right wing money, just like
the Washington Times.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #24
36. Bingo! Satire is speaking truth to power. If the powerful ridicules the powerless
then is embarrassing, like kicking a dog, or mocking a cripple.
It's a fundamental truth that the little fascists fail to grasp.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #36
40. We always pull for the underdog. The Republicans are for the
robber barons, for the "Haves."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #36
42. It's been true at least since Shakespeare
They just don't fuggin' get it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 04:48 PM
Response to Original message
28. I'm predicting it will suck.....
Republicans just aren't funny. I'm also predicting this endeavor will provide even more material for Stewart/Colbert.

Just when you thought RW'ers couldn't possibly be any lamer.....:dunce:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 04:51 PM
Response to Original message
29. Sounds like one of the many SNL ripoffs that failed miserably back when SNL was popular.
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 04:52 PM by buddysmellgood
Actually, why don't they just repackage O'Reilly as a parody on his self?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #29
37. SNL stopped being funny when it stopped satirizing the powerful.
It became irrelevant and sophomoric for this simple reason.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #37
43. Agreed, although recently I saw SNL. I hadn't watched in years. They did a bit about a
manshark project. It was a failed project that had to go on. People walked around with blood spurting stumps. There was talk of wanting to go home to their families. I was really silly. The point of the skit was not appparent. Then at the end, an actor said that the skit might have been about the war in Iraq or maybe something else.
They are only very cautiously doing a skit like, that now that the tide is turning.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Goat or Panic Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 05:14 PM
Response to Original message
31. So Faux News is now
Is now officially admitting that they are conservative and also admitting that they are now stealing ideas from a cable comedy show. Has Fox just stopped trying to pretend that they are a real news channel?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 06:32 PM
Response to Original message
32. copycats?
lal
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 07:43 PM
Response to Original message
35. I thought Faux News already was RW satire.
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #35
39. No, silly. It was RW tragedy. or Drama. Now, they'll add the laugh track to
...well, basically the same thing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:21 PM
Response to Original message
38. Uhm, the Comedy channel is about comedy...
and Fox "News" is supposed to be about news.

What part of that don't they get?

and what is The Michael Moore Channel?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 10:20 PM
Response to Original message
41. Note to the right:
Leave the funny and the satire to us, because you really . . .. REALLLLL L L L Y suck at it.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 12:24 AM
Response to Original message
45. Isn't it already on air?
I think its called "The Colbert Report."

.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 01:11 AM
Response to Original message
46. It won't work. Republicans don't have a sense of humor. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 06:46 AM
Response to Original message
47. My prediction?
They'll get two shows, tops, out of it.

Just how many "fat Michael Moore", or "Bill and Hillary" or "Jimmy Carter and the Rabbit" jokes are there out there anyways?

The material is limited and Dennis Miller shows that every time he opens his mouth. Want proof? Just look at his most recent performance on the Daily Show. Stewart handed him his ass, and Jon was "playing nice" that night.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 10:04 AM
Response to Original message
49. Right-wing humor has always been very heavy handed and clumsy.
People who are not conscious of others in the deepest, most essential ways become right-wingers. There's a whole lot which goes right over their heads. They need broad, crude humor, and simple ideas to stay interested. Is it likely there are enough slow people in the country to keep shows like this in business?



Looked for the photos of the two people mentioned as the "news anchors." One of the links said that Susan Yeagley has appeared on "Curb Your Enthusiasm," and is married to Keven Nealon, from SNL. Kurt Long is the other. I don't recognize him at all.

They don't look like people who write comedy, unlike the guys in the Comedy Central "news" shows.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coaster City Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #49
50. Is that what they are calling the OJ Piece?
All the spin after this debacle and Bill-o claiming no relation between Fox News and Fox Entertainment. No connection between rational thought and these idiots.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat Apr 20th 2024, 07:39 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC