Do you HATE George W. Bush?

[BikeWriter]

:shrug:

[BikeWriter]

1. I was wondering about the numbers, thus the poll.

[baldguy]

2. Only for what he's done.

[benny05]

7. That's how I feel n/t

[Tesha]

47. I hate what he (and his cronies) have done to *MY* country.

I don't hate the man, I hate what he (and his cronies) have
done to *MY* country.

I look forward to George W. Bush being remanded over to the
justice system, whether in this country or in an international
courtroom.

Tesha

[LWolf]

3. There is sure a lot of defense of hate going on at DU today.

Hate speech? Bad.
Hate in the form of racism, sexism, etc.? Bad.
Political hate? Just great with most of DU.

Why am I the only one that seems to see the hypocrisy here?

There is no excuse for hate. It accomplishes nothing, and makes every situation worse. Nobody ever left the world a better place with a legacy of hate.

[Bucky]

8. You are the only one who sees the hypocrisy because you are a lone wolf in a sea of boiling anger

I thought your screen name would be a giveaway here. :)

[LWolf]

20. Heh. That could be it.

I get angry. I get PLENTY angry. I just don't allow anger to control me, or to drive me into hate.

When I look back at the things in my life I most regret, they are usually things done in anger.

[cyclezealot]

13. I recast my vote.

The mayhem he unleashed in Iraq this week. I recast my vote from hate the sob, to hate does not express my feelings.

[BikeWriter]

25. The U.S. military taught me to hate my enemies.

[LWolf]

26. Are you serious?

You let the military, or anyone, dictate your feelings as well as your actions?

[BikeWriter]

31. I learned hate is a damned effective motivator.

[LWolf]

33. Motivator, yes.

Hate motivates all of humanities atrocities. :shrug:

[BikeWriter]

36. Ha ha ha ha! It's no atrocity to hate *.

[LWolf]

37. Hate leads to atrocities.

I think the term "hate" is defined sloppily. One can be angry; one can vigorously disagree, and act in opposition to someone or something, without hate. Usually that which we oppose has its source in hate and/or fear. Hate vs hate doesn't create change. Determination, passion, commitment to an ideal, commitment to change...those are creative energies. While hate may feel motivating to those who don't know how to proceed without it, hate is not a creative, constructive energy. It doesn't create change or move an issue any closer to an ideal.

Racism, classism, sexism, etc.? All hate/fear based.

Bullying? based on fear and self-hatred.

Slavery, torture, killing, and abuse of people and other living things? Stems from a lack of empathy. Hate thrives where empathy is absent. A world culture based on empathy leaves nothing to hate.

[BikeWriter]

39. * has raped America. I'll curse him with my last breath.

[LWolf]

41. I certainly curse what he has done.

Cursing comes easily, unfortunately. I don't have to "hate" to curse. :D

As far as the man himself? I think that hating him gives him too much credit; too much power. Hate feeds the very qualities that make him "hateful" to begin with. I'd rather starve him, not feed him. I'm satisfied with ending his reign of terror and allowing him to reap his own results. That will happen whether or not I "hate" him. His historical record will shame him for as long as humans are keeping track of history.

[BikeWriter]

42. He'll still be racking in millions in "consulting fees" (bribes).

[LWolf]

45. Most do. I question this one, though.

He has no credibility left. Any fees will have to come from corporations who make their employees attend gatherings with keynote speakers, or from churches still bent on theocracy. I don't think he'll be getting much from mainstream Republican audiences.

On edit, I should add that, hopefully, he can't collect any fees at all until he gets out of prison, if a Democratic Congress will serve up some justice.

[BikeWriter]

46. Whatever deal he made with the Saudis will still be in place.

His evacuating the bin Ladens without questioning should he investigated to the last hair. There has to be a payoff for him their.

[Roialus]

44. Hate is Immoral and Counter-Productive

Very true. Hate doesn't improve things, it just makes them worse, as we can see easily enough in the whole Israel/Palestine debacle and in the terrorist attacks on the US and in Europe. The results of hatred held close are easy to see in terrorism and sectarian violence.

I don't hate Bush. I love him, just as I love everyone. I may disagree with his policies, feel disgust for the brand of conservatism he represents because it makes a mockery of a genuine conservatism, and feel pity for those who were convinced that he was the lesser of the evils, but I do not hate him.

I will not become that which I oppose.

[Bucky]

4. Hate his policies, but it's not personal. But the truth is Bush hates Iraqis & the US military

If hate means you'd kill someone for no reason, then Bush hates thousands, tens of thousands, of people. I wouldn't kill him, given the opportunity, so I guess it's not hate. For him, tho, I think it demonstrably is hate--he's knowingly (or at least with the capacity to know) sent thousands to their graves and hasn't even bothered to honor the dead who he sent into the meat grinder. He initiated the slaughter of thousands under false pretences--what could be a clearer demonstration of hatred?

Quit saying "I hate Bush". You don't know what hate is. Say "Bush hates me and you" if you want to be honest (or say "Bush hates you and me" if you want to be courteous).

[wryter2000]

5. Define hate

For me, it depends on the definition of hate. If African Americans could get through their horrible history in this country without hating, who am I to say I hate? I certainly loathe and detest him. I want him humiliated and disgraced. I'd like to see him on trial and convicted of war crimes. I don't know if that qualifies as hate.

[Eugene]

6. I don't hate Bush.

I do consider him unbalanced, simple-minded, and dangerous though.

[jbnow]

9. The word hate doesn't come to mind

The words that come is I loathe and abhor him.

Not sure of the difference, I just don't connect with hate.

hate (hāt)
To feel hostility or animosity toward.

That fits though

ab·hor (ăb-hôr')
To regard with horror or loathing; detest: find repugnant

loathe (lōTH)
To dislike (someone or something) greatly; abhor.

They must be synonyms, hate just sounds more personal, like a connection. He repels me. He has repelled me since I first heard him as he was running for president. That came natural.

He has earned the loathing and abhorring.

[Joe Chi Minh]

10. Though none of us are any great shakes, I feel profoundly sorry

for him, for the person he might have been.

[cyclezealot]

11. his smug smirk. His arrogrance.

It's one of the deadliest of sins. Vanity. Yes, I hate the sob. He choked on a pretzel, we'd all pull out the champagne. Maybe our hatred of him is a deadly sin? But, evil doers deserve such fate. The lies causing unnecessary death and destruction. He deserves to burn in hell. Of course, we all know he is saved. Guess, response number 9 better states my feelings.
but, when one causes such destruction, still not be upset if Bush and Cheney both choked on a pretzel, as long as it got them out of office. The declining economy, the destruction in Iraq. It would all do us a favor.

[msongs]

12. love the sinner, hate the sin? nt

[CJCRANE]

14. I'm not sure.

I watched his post-election press conference the other week and he seemed like a clueless buffoon with no self-awareness as to how stupid he is.

If I find out that it's all an act and he knows what he's doing - then I'll probably hate him.

[cyclezealot]

21. you are right, being a buffon and idiot.

guess that is a defense for his destruction. Sort of like his willingness to execute the innocent, while governor of Texas; even if they were mentally unable to understand the charges against them.

[crim son]

15. Because I don't know the man, I can't say I hate him.

I hate what he's done to our country and I hate what he represents: ignorance, fear, dogmatic thinking, callousness, selfishness and egocentricity. No doubt if I met him I'd see a human being when I looked in his eyes. Other human beings are hard to hate, except in the abstract. He's earned my complete lack of respect and strong dislike, at a minimum.

[BlueCaliDem]

16. Voted "No, I don't" because "hate" is the flip-side of "love", and in order to "hate",

....one must have "loved" at one point in time.

I never loved George W. Bush, therefore, I can't "hate" him.

Strong, strong dislike, and even disgust? Oh yeah! That, I do feel when I think of all he's done to this country, and the world.

[calmblueocean]

17. I have moments when I do.

Whenever Bush is out campaigning, and I hear some clip of him giving a speech, where he's spewing the most baldfaced lies, in those moments, confronted with the sheer naked audacity of his lies... I hate the guy. I do.

Like after Kerry's joke about Bush not having done his homework and getting us stuck in Iraq, Bush went on the road and said:

"The senator's suggestion that the men and women of our military are somehow uneducated is insulting and shameful. The men and women who serve in our all-volunteer armed forces are plenty smart and are serving because they are patriots -- and Senator Kerry owes them an apology."

He knew damn fucking well that Kerry's joke was about him.

But he knew that lots of people in his base wouldn't. He knew that he could stoke their outrage by telling them Kerry said the troops were dumb, and that they'd believe him. He knew that the press would jump on it, too, and hound Kerry until he was forced to apologize for something he never did.

It never matters to Bush how much he divides us. He'll say anything. And in those moments, I do hate him...

... but then I remember that that's exactly what he wants. He wants me to hate Republicans. He wants Republicans to hate me. He wants to turn us all against each other, and I won't play that game. My every day actions are motivated by love of country and of peace. Not hate. Leave hate to the Republicans. It always loses in the end.

[pooja]

18. Hate means you fear which is the antonym of LOVE.

If you fear him, that means he's unstoppable. You may as well lay down on the assembly line and allow them to insert your chip.

No, I do not fear this man. He is incapable of doing anything and I feel sad and humiliated for him because he doesn't have enough thought in his brain to realize that he is an imbecile.

[LiviaOlivia]

19. Why I hate, rather than dislike....

Friday, November 24, 2006
Why I hate, rather than dislike, the Bush movement
by Glenn Greenwald

~snip~

Ponder how corrupt and misleading their coordinated pre-election claim was: All the increased violence in Iraq was just about the midterm election, not a sign of a spiraling civil war. It was just The Terrorists who hate Bush, because he is so tough with them, trying to help the Democrats. Nothing was really that bad in Iraq. Once the elections are over, it will all subside, because it's only about that.

The only thing worse than government leaders lying to their citizens so blatantly about a war is lying in order to benefit themselves politically for cheap electoral gain, so that's exactly what Bush officials and Bush followers do.

~snip~

Nobody glorifies the power of the Islamic Terrorists more than Bush followers do.......

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/11/why-i-hate-rather-than-dislike-bush.html

[Joey Liberal]

22. Smirk hates us. n/t

[nealmhughes]

23. No, I do not hate the Bush fils. I pity him.

[Montauk6]

24. I hate the inaction that allowed him to power.

I hate the hesitation of those not wanting to call the administration liars.

I think of people like Eartha Kitt who felt no compunction about expressing her outrage at the absurd madness of the Vietnam War at a White House luncheon, causing Lady Bird to reach for the smelling salts. Inappropriate? Tactless? Only if you consider the cause of the outrage appropriate.

But where is that tactlessness today? I've seen MORE apologies for statements made against Bush policies than I have against the destruction and mayhem. PLAY NICE??? You have to EARN the PRIVILEGE of being played nice to!

Yet, do I hate this man? I hate what he represents, I hate the context which makes his kind possible but I don't know the man personally so it wouldn't make sense to hate him.

My ex-landlord, now THERE'S a man I absolutely hate!

[LeftishBrit]

27. Yes, I hate him

He has caused so much harm in the world, and caused the deaths of thousands of people, and seems to glory in it.

And I fear him too, because he's got far too much power for such an evil and stupid person, and it endangers the whole world.

[KayLaw]

28. Why waste hatred on him?

He's not hatred worthy.

[BikeWriter]

32. Because the bastard is there.

[TankLV]

29. It's inadequate to express how I feel.

I truly wish the WORST to happen to him, as PAYBACK for all the EVIL that he has wrought on this country and world...

[JNelson6563]

30. I can't imagine wasting the energy

he is a useful idiot to evil people.

[BlueCollar]

34. I feel as much love for Bush*

as freepers do for Bill Clinton

[Fire Walk With Me]

35. A better question is "how viscerally do the core Republicans hate us?"

And how far are the money buddies willing to go to maintain their hold on the lawmaking process?

[Auntie Bush]

38. I hate him with all my heart and soul! How can anyone not? The man

is responsible for the deaths of thousands. If he had gone into this war with the truth or a noble cause I could forgive him. But his reasons were all immoral...like lying, revenge & hatred, stealing another country's OIL, and even to raise his sinking poll numbers, and do something his Daddy couldn't. Now which one of those reasons is not pure evil? And don't tell me it was for Freedom...That was bullsh*t and dreamed up because all the other lies had been proven false.
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[BikeWriter]

43. You got it! The bastid did this to our Children and country!

[Spiffarino]

40. I don't hate Bush. I hate what he does. n/t

[0007]

52. junior is the sum of all that he does.

[Bettie]

48. Hate is a self-destructive emotion

I disagree with his policies. (To put it mildly)

I think he's a moron and functionally illiterate.

I think he's a bad parent and thinks only of himself and his rich friends.

But to hate him...well, that would be MY choice and hating anyone eats at my soul, not theirs.

There is too much energy involved in hate, energy that can better be spent dealing with the problems we face.

[nolabels]

49. In a supposed country with all these freedoms he made his choices

If you turn it upside down and the other way around, take that anger for your own. Take what would seem most fitting for him and do it to yourself instead. If you do this you will be able to steal back the power he stole from you (or should we say that you gave to him). What I would wish for * is to get an extensive education into the things he missed. In this way we could all figure out how he got into the mess and how to stay out of it. The education system in the US failed * and the other people who helped put him there. We may all pay the price collectively but everybody must learn from the mistakes that were made if we are to collectively go forward.

Nobody knows all the mistakes that were made and some still don't think any were made. So just like the arc of justice is large so is arc of knowledge, from not knowing to knowing. We will learn.

[noonwitch]

50. No, if he was my neighbor and not the President, I'd probably like him

It'd be far better than the crackheads I have living next door, who beat on each other all day long and have the cops coming over at least twice a month.

I don't like his policies. The people I like personally are often not necessarily people I agree with politically.

[Chemical Bill]

51. I don't hate a turd, I just flush. n/t

[jenmito]

54. The turd most likely didn't kill anyone...

Bush has caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

53. Anyone who shit on democracy

the way Bush did in 2000- thwarting the will of Flordians, and the nation- is worthy of the most extreme scorn.

[FrenchieCat]

55. He's not worth that from me......

that is an emotion that I try to minimize, not maximize. There is so much to dislike about Bush and his policies, that being consumed with hate would drive me crazy. Doing that would keep me from being part of the solution to get him and his ilk out of there.