Upon listening to Molly Ivins this weekend...stop the Kumbaya BS Dems!

[zulchzulu]

While doing the long drives these past few days for Thanksgiving events, I listened to Molly Ivins audio CDs that went all the way back to 1988. Her writings commented on the various stages of the Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Shrub years (Texas Guv/prez) and what was very obvious to me was that the Repigs play dirty...whether in Texas or nationally.

Democrats try to get healthcare reform, protect the environment, support children through education and other programs, support women's rights, gay rights....you know the drill. They are constantly met with dirty tricks, lies, distortion, corruption and mostly UTTER HYPOCRISY from the Repig Party at all levels and at all stops.

When Newt Gingrich seized power with the "Contract With America" in 1994, he was unapologetically an absolute partisan who stopped at nothing to put the boots on the necks of the Democrats and push through the obvious evil agenda that generations will be feeling for years. Bush kept on the stampede of the same agenda afterword. We now know what has been done and as Molly says, "there is so much horseshit here, there's bound to be a pony..."

It was the same thing over and over... Democrats trying to present and pass progressive legislation and the Repigs would muzzle and destroy through unbridaled, unethical methods. Over and over...lies...lies...and more lies...

I say we completely and totally reject the Kumbaya Meeting of the Bipartisan Sellout strategy immediately when the House and Senate begin sessions in January.

We should follow the Newt Playbook in reverse. Attack uniformly and take names. Burn their bridges, chop down their alliances. Go for the jugular immediately. Let's make the Repigs scared. The hell with working with them...they will obviously try to blame the Democrats in 2008 for the failings we inherited in 2006. We need immediate investigations on a hundred fronts. Get rid of the cancerous unAmericans in the White House through the power our Founding Fathers allowed. Bush is so unpopular now that enough moderate Republicans would join in.

We already know their game. We just need to smack back a LOT harder. It's time for the boot to be on their necks. I'm certain that the message from the voters was nothing short of this. We need to DeNewt America...every corner...every crevice...every splinter...changed.

[midnight]

1. What is Kambaya?

[RaleighNCDUer]

2. Gather by the campfire, everybody hold hands and sing together -

never been to good at that, myself.

[cascadiance]

3. It is Faux's and Alan Colmes' way to describe meetings of Democrats...

I still remember hearing one of Alan Colmes' first radio shows when he got Janeane Garafalo on (before she was with Air America). They were civil for a while, and then asked her whether she "kumbayad" or something of that nature, she flew off the handle at him and called him the "token" moderate that he is.

[greenman3610]

10. classic of early 60s folk revival

"Someone's crying Lord, Kumbayah.." etc

synonymous for naive, lightweight, airhead, feelgood, "can't we all get along"
liberalism, unexamined 60s values,etc.


http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a980911a.html

[snowbear]

4. I'd rather be a Democrat singing Kumbaya....

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[Mend]

11. and until you accomplish what we did with our

"Kumbaya" in the sixties and seventies, including civil rights, women's rights, ending the war and the draft, you just might want to show a little respect for us flower children and our peace songs.

[zulchzulu]

13. Singing Kumbaya is different than playing Kumbaya

I'm all for singing the lovely tune...I just think we should not play the "Kumbaya Card" with the Republicans.

You know as well as I that they will do all they can to stop us...therefore, let's attack early and often.

[niceypoo]

17. Bullshit, in the 60s there was mass radicalism and demonstrations/riots

You wont get the republicans to "Kumbaya" with you no matter what you do or say. The 60s are over, the hippies finally had to grow up. "Reaching across the aisle," only makes the republicans laugh in knowing that they got away with everything. They need to be hammered and hammered hard. If the Dems "kumbaya" with the right we will see a repeat of all this neocon crap again in the future.

[zulchzulu]

18. Exactly

Let's put Kumbaya back in the songbook file and start singing a little more of this:

The roof the roof the roof is on fire
The roof the roof the roof is on fire
The roof the roof the roof is on fire
We don't need no water let the motherfucker burn
Burn motherfucker burn

[blondeatlast]

5. Yes indeed! We've got the committee chairs and we can push through legislation

they will have to be put on the defensive about.

Voted against lower drug prices? Tell it to your constituents, suckers. W vetoed lower drug prices? Explain not overriding W's veto to your constituents, suckers.

I CAN'T WAIT until January. They made the rules--let's beat them to hell with them!

[Nite Owl]

6. Amen to that!

Any reaching across the aisle needs to be done by moderate republicans who want to say me too. No compromising with them. And please lets stop with the me too conservative stuff. There is no such thing as good conservative values or being fiscally conservative. Responsible that is the way it should be framed not conservative.

[zulchzulu]

15. Ivins called faux conservatives "Neo-Birchists"

Her ingenius comment that most conservatives are not really "conservative" (as in a Goldwater Conservative)but more like Neo John Birch Society hatemongers is pretty darn accurate.

Goldwater wanted government off people's backs, could care less about sexual preferences, was for fiscal conservatism and was even an "environmentalist", albeit called a "conservationist".

John Birch Society types are more accurately defined as "conservatives" these days...one knuckledragging advance above their KKK brothers...

[leftofthedial]

7. we need to ruthlessly drive repukes out of public life

they are a cancer on democracy.

[AtomicKitten]

8. let the subpoenas begin

[zulchzulu]

20. Impeachment is not on the table.....

...it's in the cannon!

[AtomicKitten]

21. Cheney has already declared

he has no intention of answering subpoenas issued by the Dem Congress on account of his imperial presidency 'n stuff. Watching him frog-march up the steps of Congress will sate my cravings for a reckoning for a bit and tide me over until all their dirty laundry is aired. This time America will actually see what that looks like as opposed to the sordid details of a Oval Office tryst.
Yes, that is me smugly cackling. Hehehe.

[BigBearJohn]

9. I love this line: "It's time for the boot to be on their necks." So true. So true.

[zulchzulu]

12. The GOP has been doing it to the middle class for almost 30 years

Granted, some Democrats went along for the ride, but they should be treated like con men that are asking for another loan...

[tavalon]

14. Did you mean the Contract On America?

I do not know of this "contract with" that you speak of in the same sentence with the Newt.

[zulchzulu]

16. "Contract With America" really was "Contract Without America"

It was "on" America, but the intent was to undermine America and place our country into a fascist state, where corporations mean more than what the people need.

[Stinky The Clown]

19. You got my K&R!

I've been screaming for some hard-assed street fighting (metaphorically speaking) in Congress for a while. The Republic Party can NOT be trusted to give you the correct time of day.

Kumbaya *this*, motherfuckers.

[Qutzupalotl]

22. The findings of the investigations will take care of that.

If you think there's outrage now, you ain't seen nothing yet.

The beauty of it is that we don't have to be seen as the source of that outrage. That would make the whole thing look like a partisan witch-hunt.

The investigations WILL proceed. They WILL find things that will turn an honest man's stomach, and the PEOPLE will propel the crooks to the curb.

[Danascot]

25. You got that right

I've been saying for a while, even with all the awful stuff we know about already, it's nothing compared with what they've managed to keep hidden so far. But it's all going to come out eventually. Let the investigations begin!

[Doctor_J]

23. Right on it, zulu

I like listening to Hartmann and Malloy. Malloy's approach is what will reclaim our country if we ever want to revive The Greatest Century.

[IndyOp]

24. We should reach across the aisle...

AND SLUG THEM FOR EVERY DAMNED LIFE THEY TAKEN OR RUINED. For every damned dollar stolen. For every principle they've twisted for their own sick power-grabs...

:grr: :nuke:

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

26. Maybe they're thinking the same thing

The 110th hasn't convened yet, after all.

I believe our party got the message when we got the majority. I tend to think so, not because I'm an optimist but because, if it's so apparent to me - a rank-and-file Dem - that any Republicans up for reelection in 2008 will be forced to define themselves as either defenders or opponents of Bush, and vote accordingly, then surely it must be crystal clear to our strategists.

Welcome the ones who will work with us, lay siege to those who won't, and always, always take any attack on one of ours and turn it back on their entire party.

[calimary]

27. Hey, works for me! I'm not ready to make nice.

Not until they're on their fuckin' KNEES. Taste of their own medicine. See how they like it.

[AzDar]

28. The Republicans have proven themselves to be treacherous time

and again.
We 'make nice' with them at our own peril..