What Our No 1 Job Should Be Right Now - Effective Dossier on Giuliani

[HardWorkingDem]

Right now I believe Giuliani will not only be the GOP front runner but also the GOP nominee. I believe when it all comes down to it, the Conservative Wing of the GOP will want to win so bad that if Giuliani does not "reform" his wicked ways (abortion, gay unions) then they will absolve him of his differences.

Because of this, I think we must all do our part in chipping away at his armor. It takes a long time to destroy the reputation of a fabricated myth and we need to start early.

[Loge23]

1. Guiliani before 9-11

A failed mayoral stint.
NY'ers were ready to move on.
The Police & Fire despised him.
Then came 9-11.

He did the TV thing on 9/11 and suddenly he's "America 's Mayor".
But his haste to clean up the site resulted in bones still being found in manholes to this day.
And his neglicence on safety at the pit resulted in dozens of rescure workers sick to this day.

If someone (preferably from NYC) can dig a little deeper, Guiliani is toast.

[no_hypocrisy]

5. How about three unarmed men brutalized and/or killed by NYC cops and

sanctioned by Giuliani:

Abner Louima. Arrested for minor charge. Taken to police station. Had broom handle shoved repeatedly up his rectum, perforating his intestines, requiring surgery but leaving him permanently injured. Giuliani never challenged actions of "renegade" cops.

Patrick Dourisman. Refused to engage with undercover cops trying to get him to buy drugs. Got into a scuffle with them. They shot him dead for "resisting arrest". Giuliani unlawfully unsealed Dourisman's juvenile criminal record to prove the cops had probable cause.

Amadu Diallo. Came home. Cops came to his door and demanded ID. Diallo reached for his wallet. Cops believed he was going for a gun. Shot Diallo 41 times. Giuliani defended actions of his cops.

[HardWorkingDem]

8. Don't mean to lessen these events....

but do you really think with the post 9-11 images of Giuliani seared in the brains of Americans that unless something is done, Giuliani is going to get a pass for his pre-9-11 days? It comes down to "what have you done for me lately."

And this is on top of a recent article I read (can't remember where) where Giuliani insisted on a command post closer to Ground Zero that ended up costing more 9/11 lives than if he had placed it where others smarter than he suggested it placed.

I feel that McCain's age and health and American fatigue factor will be enough to keep him out and Romney's religion make him a so called not ready for prime time player.

That's why we should be using the strategy of knocking down a person's strengths very early on, i.e., Kerry's war combat experience.

[no_hypocrisy]

6. Sorry. Dupe.

[KAT119]

9. Major 9/11 coverup book by David Ray Griffin: "The 9/11 Report-Omissions

and Distortions" and all other 9/11 investigations are clear that Giuliani had a coordinated 'War Room'in WTC bldg.#7 with Cheney's people to create the bloody events of 9/11.

Giuliani's 'War Room' was in bldg. # 7 a long distance away from Twin Towers and nothing at all hit it, however, most mysteriously, it collapsed in 7 seconds into its footprint, and similar corner explosions were seen throughout this bldg. and huge horizontal projectiles (500 feet out) as the Twin Towers

The corporate * media has said nothing about bldg.# 7, but the full insurance was paid out for its mysterious destruction on 9/11.

Who benefitted?? Giuliani and all his 'War Room' plotting evidence was totally destroyed very conveniently. Did a Bush member receive the insurance pay out-an uncle?

When the truth about 9/11 finally comes out, Giuliani will be indicted.

[FrenchieCat]

2. I don't believe Giuliani has a chance in hell......

But that's just my opinion. I'd be doing the oppo research on McCain and Romney if I were in charge....with Giuliani, you ain't got to start this soon.....the shit will be spilling out of the closet out of control. You won't be able to close that door even if you tried.

[snowbear]

3. According to that dude from Washington Post.. Dana Milbank.. we don't need to do a damn thing!

Said that Rudy is a media sensation right now.. but that a thrice-married (once to his own cousin), opponent of gay rights, gun control, and abortion -- who became an overnight American hero because of a single event--- will self destruct if he opts to run in the Republican party.

Said that the polls we're being shown right now are not sorted by party affiliation.

Milbank said the only way that Guilini would make it through a primary is to not run as a Republican, and even that isn't a certainty. Evidently, he's not that great in the debates.

Don't worry HWDem... It ain't gonna happen.

[JI7]

4. the Republican Nominee can be predictable early on

it's usually whoever the party establishment gathers around and it tends to happen early.

in 2000 all but 3 Senators endorsed Bush over their own colleague McCain. one of them was his own home state Senator Kyl,plus fellow Vet Hagel and Fred Thompson. Rush Limbaugh and the other media ,pundits etc were backing Bush also.

[1932]

7. Here's your dossier:

http://www.amazon.com/Foxes-Henhouse-Republicans-Heartland-Democrats/dp/0743286510/sr=8-1/qid=1164808003/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-7593254-8792836?ie=UTF8&s=books

Foxes in the Henhouse: How the Republicans Stole the South and the Heartland and What the Democrats Must Do to Run 'em Out (Hardcover)
by Steve Jarding and Dave Saunders

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

10. No f'ing way.

You'll much sooner see Santorum get the nomination than Giuliani. And that's saying a lot given how badly Santorum just lost.