Are there any other DU'ers who believe: "Strategic Air Strikes will Occur." in Iran

[KoKo]

and that Bush's SURGE means that He and Dems have met with Assad of Syria and given them MONEY to sit by while we "Show Big Force" to LOUD MOUTH ..Ahmadinejan...to Teach that Sucker a Lesson that "Loose Lips ...Sink Ships."

So...our New "SURGE" of bringing in the "addiitonal 20,000 Troops ...means that we go after "al Sadr" and if we "cant take him out" we do "Strategic Air Force Strickes agains Iran thereby giving cover to Saudi's that we've shown Iranians we are POWERFUL IN AIR....even if our "troops are thin" and show ISRAEL and SYRIA that we can always use the "Air Power" if Hizbollah becomes a threat and ..in the end...the NEWS MEDIA REPORTS about Americans AGAINST BUSH/CHENEY's WAR and how they "Disapprove" will be "OVERRIDDEN" by those who need to give the "Neo-Cons" some "breathing room" so they can be rehabilitated in our American Foreign Policy Role...and that AIRSTRIKES AGAINST IRAN...will SHOW SUPER MILITARY MIGHT...that will send DEMS into their CAVES for FEAR OF APPPEARING WEAK ON FOREIGN POLICY AND WAR?

:shrug:

[Pierre.Suave]

1. Why not?

We already have Spec Ops and Marines on the ground inside Iran.

Although, I think Israel will take the lead in starting the offensive air war.

[NV1962]

2. Dunno, but I certainly don't.

One gigantic quagmire in the Middle East that displeases Saudi Arabia is enough, even for W.

So no.

[whistle]

3. Highly likely the longer Bush/Cheney remain in office and it could happen right

...before the 110th congress convenes as shrub's way of sticking his thumb in the democratic congress majority's collect eye. I believe all of Dick Cheney's secret travels has been in preparation of just such an act. It could even take place between Christmas and New Years Eve

[Hush_sLimbaugh]

6. Is GWB a Saudi puppet?

I believe the Saudi government is telling W. not to do it and he is trying to get somebody - anybody - to get Iran to do something to make it just a little bit OK to attack them to the Saudi government.

[whistle]

12. Shrub is a neo-con puppet and Cheney does pull Dubya's strings

....Cheney is pushing for an escalation of war and it doesn't matter to Cheney if it is with Iran, or Syria, or flame-up in Iraq

[teryang]

16. The timing is right

When the great speech before Christmas was postponed it became more likely.

[NoPasaran]

4. I'm "sure" there ARE

"But" I'm not ONE of "them"

[KoKo]

7. I wonder if the DEBATE isn't whether "Show of Hollow Force" Equals

the BLOOD DRIPPING FROM AMERICAN HANDS.

How can this ever be reconciled? The "Blood that Drips from Our Hands?"

Just like Vietnam...another failed war..and Korea also for those who have "short memories." And then put it the "other stuff" we've done as Conquerers."

It makes it seem like we are BLOOD LUST LOVERS! Imperial ROME in AMERICA!

When Will WE EVER LEARN? WHEN?

[NoPasaran]

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[KoKo]

9. Amazing...you did this post...off top of your head?

It's like what I could write...if I was in a big Fugue... Amazing what you got into that post........

[nashville_brook]

5. i think bush craves the "victory"-like attention he once knew

and will do anything to get there again.

i wonder if the dems will stand up to him, for fear of appearing "weak" etc -- but i *hope* the shine is off that rotten apple.

[KoKo]

10. What worries me is that Dems NEED to be STRONG ON DEFENSE...and

that "line up of Dems" going to Syria to meet with Assad ...says to me they knew that for America to have the view of REMAINING STRONG...means Syria has to "Stand Down" if and when we do Iranian Air Strikes. We might be doing a "Bluff Show of Force" bombing "inconsequential sites" in Iraq just to put Ahmandinejad in his Place for his BIG MOUTH...but...the MSM here in America will portray it as American MIGHT of our AIRFORCE STRIKES when the "WEENIE" ground forces Commanders of US ARMY were WHINING AND COMPLAINING that we are "Over-Extended" and can't supply more "Ground Troops."

The NeoCons can't wait to show that America is NOT WEAKENED BY CARNAGE IN IRAQ...we STILL HAVE.....the US AIR FORCE AND STRIKE CAPABILITY...after THAT...we STILL HAVE ...THE NUKES!!!

America has a FOREIGN POLICY RUN AMOK...but both Repugs and Dems KNOW that we cannot APPEAR TO BE WEAK in Foreign Policy...and Bush has MADE US SO WEAK....

We are caught in a TRAP!!! Dems and Repugs..CAUGHT in the ESCALATING TRAP ..JUST LIKE IN VIETNAM!! :cry:

[Warren Stupidity]

11. Sure that thought has occurred to me.

It seems to me that they attempted to provoke Syria into intervening in Lebanon, only the plan fell apart when it turned out that Hezbollah was quite capable of withstanding what the IDF had to offer while continuing to give back some of the shock'n'awe Israel was visiting on its northern neighbor.

The actual numbers I've seen are as high as 30,000, and there was some mention that this is 30,000 combat troops PLUS support troops and contractors - which would make it a much higher number. Suppose the plan is in fact to provoke Iran into outright intervention in support of shiite forces in Iraq?

But more likely the idiots and criminals in the white house and their friends and enablers in both parties are convinced that if they just butcher and destroy at a sufficient rate and intensity that the Iraqis will become submissive and those surviviing will behave. Perhaps they are right. We here will have to live with the crimes done in our name regardless of the outcome.

[KoKo]

19. The Lebanon situation caused much "loss of face." But the Bushies were

happy to let that situation ride out. One would hope that some would blame him for what happened there...but so far it seems "saving face" might be what it's all about. :-( Bush/Cheney always get "a pass" even from the Israeli's in the Lebanon situation. Unless something is going on behind the scenes we don't know about...but I don't think what's going on is about a "Peace Process" getting a jumpstart from these folks. :-(

[Union Thug]

13. I don't know..But I will tell you this...If Dems are involved, as you suggest..

and an attack occurs, then I will never vote for another democrat for as long as I live.

[KoKo]

18. We have to hope that there will be an emergence of a "new kind of Dem"

after this ....because our Country won't survive this in any way we know of. As bad as our Dems are with "enabeling"....we have to hope that a few emerge. And much as I doubt it...even a couple of Repugs will emerge to say it was WRONG...and they see the blood on their hands.

[fuzzyball]

20. This country will survive all Stupidity by our leaders....

because it is the hard working and smart people who
make this country what it is.

[thethinker]

14. Lord I hope not

But if that is the plan, then I think Israel will bomb Iran. We will jump in to protect Israel. They may do a Bay of Tonkin incident to give Israel an excuse. If it should happen that way, the Democrats in congress will fall in line because they want to back Israel. It would be really, really spineless and stupid on their part, but they would fall in line.

[welshTerrier2]

15. i'm afraid so but not anytime soon ...

i have to have the worst record of anyone in my prognostication skills ... i don't know why i even bother anymore ...

my take on bombing Iran is that it will happen but it will NOT happen soon ... i have to believe that if we attacked Iran now, the situation for our troops in Iraq would become immediately untenable which it sort of already is ... bombing Iran would put those troops at severe risk ... whatever i think of bush, i think he is first and foremost worried about his legacy and if US troops were to suffer massive casualties after such a stupid stunt, and they would, bush would have no way to avoid the blame ...

on the other hand, we are a greedy nation of oil junkies and we are NOT likely to chart any type of sane course away from our dependence on ME oil ... and the big oil boys want their piece of the ME to remain intact ... soooooo, my script is that bush makes his insane "surge" with the misguided support of far too many Democrats, declares the "surge" strategy a success ("see, and all those liberals just wanted to surrender") and pulls the troops out of Iraq, and then before he leaves office, he bombs Iran to create a pre-2008 climate of fear while he hugs and kisses John McCain and annoints him the tough guy with military experience leader America needs ...

you disagree with that????? hey, i told you i was no good at it ... nevertheless, that's the script i see ... and the Democrats? ... truly i wish i could have faith that they will stop this madness ... but i don't ...

[KoKo]

17. I could go with your scenario...if I didn't feel Bush weakness and Neo-Con

ambition not to see themselves go down in flames or investigative hearings wouldn't push it to January/February.... They need an out that's not Baker...so Bush finally throws his Poppy off his back and rides free...(to Hell..but he takes us with him.)

With predictions with these criminals...the worst one can imagine usually is what they do. I don't know about any of your predictions being "off" but if you trust them to do the "positive approach" then...probably that's too much to ask of them...because they are CRIMINALS...with no sense of right and wrong.

[Efilroft Sul]

21. It largely depends on what happens on Iran's Kish Island.

That's where the Iranian International Oil Bourse is located, which is long-awaited and not fully operational.

If oil is exchanged in petroeuros instead of petrodollars and it leads to a quick and severe weakening of an already weakened U.S. dollar, or if Iran's international oil trade proves to be more brisk Saudi Arabia's (ah, that pesky Shia vs. Sunni thing), then Bush has one or two good reasons to set the stage for a Gulf of Tonkin-like incident. As far as I know, aren't there still two of our carrier groups in the Persian Gulf since late October?

But more to the point of the OP's question: if the United States bombs Iran because of a Gulf of Tonkin-like incident, the real reasons are for the economic security of America and Saudi Arabia. If the United States bombs Iran and cites the threat of Iran's nuclear program, then the bombing will be at the behest of Israel. Whatever the scenario, it'll be a great day on Wall Street for defense contractors.

I'm not saying the strategic bombing is guaranteed to happen, but if it does, I've given you the reasons why. Follow the money and puppet strings.