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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:41 AM Original message |
Is it fair that Hillary gets free Secret Service protection? |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. NO. |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
22. If and when Barack Obama becomes the Democratic |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
113. Beat me to it |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. Oh, slam Hil AND gun control all in one thread! |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Not really, |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. And losing the WV blues--it's *Hilary's* fault? |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Yea just like 1994... |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
57. uhhh -- here's a clue -- 2006 was NOT about GUN CONTROL |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
87. Yea.. |
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Oleladylib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
3. Hillary earned this right as a first lady..let it go..!!!! |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
4. How much did the NRA.... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Nothing |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. She gets it because she's a former first lady. If any other candidates are former first ladies, |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Once Hillary announces for President she stops being former First Lady |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. bullshit |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. What? How do you "stop being former First Lady"? |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
67. what's next for the Hillary bashers -- complaining she spends too much on clothes? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. Raising an issue about Mrs. Clinton is considered "bashing" |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Their martial status wasn't an issue in the way it is with Hillary. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. That "privilege" is an issue when she is running for President |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Major candidates get protection too, you know. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. After the Convention is when SS protection is received or |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Not quite. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #82 |
111. It was not only her marital status. She had a job as First Lady, and |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
6. all of the former first ladies get them. i dont have a problem with it. |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
7. ALL former First Ladies get SS protection. HRC is a former First Lady. End of story. |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. I'm NOT bashing Hillary ... |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
58. No candidate has complained about this "unfairness," so why are you wasting your time |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
62. straw man argument |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
37. Exactly... Public Law 91-217 grants that right |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
64. SS protection is provided not just to the nominees, but to every major candidate |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 08:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
115. Agreed |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
8. It's fair |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
9. Absolutely! |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. NO.. |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Do you want a pony for Christmas as well? |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Funny.. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
28. I wish she'd come out against the Iraq war a long time ago |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Who said I was for taking it away? |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
59. grow up |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
70. WAAAHHH WAAAAHH!!! |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
10. I guess the first lady arguement.... |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
14. This kind of post makes me wonder if the poster knows anything at all |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. it is fair.. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
17. she WAS first Lady |
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Alhena (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:08 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. There has never been a serious African-American candidate |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. NO they shouldn't |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
69. If Obama thinks he needs protection, he can request a Secret Service detail. |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
79. "there has never been SS assigned to candidates" - What are you talking about? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
24. We can make this a campaign issue and force Hillary to pay for SS protection |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:19 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. that's bullshit too |
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sallyseven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:53 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Mrs. Carter, Mrs. Johnson, Betty Ford, Mrs. Reagan, Mrs. Bush |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 12:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. None of them are running for President |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. She gets that treatment because she is a former First Lady. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #48 |
65. She should pay for it once she becomes a candidate |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. umm -- I'm not the one saying she needs to give up the protection |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Former First Lady Status Can't Be Changed |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. She wants her cake and eat it too! How quaint! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 01:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. She's being treated like all other former First Ladies. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
68. She will be running as Senator Hillary Clinton, not as Clinton's wife |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 07:22 PM Response to Reply #68 |
104. she's not "trying" to do anything |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 07:35 PM Response to Reply #68 |
106. Why are you picking on her instead of Al Gore? Neither of them |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. If she were to divorce Bill, her protection would end. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
46. "She is no longer a former First Lady." That's a crock. Of course she is. |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
74. YOU go make it a campaign issue. The rest of us will focus on things that really matter |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
26. Bush Family protection |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. 16.5 MIL in protection for bush after he leaves office |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
34. Of course it's fair |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
72. Major candidates get protection long before the convention - nomination isn't required |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #72 |
97. Thanks, I thought it was something like that, but I wasn't sure. n/t |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
35. If Gore ran, wouldn't he get SS? |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
76. No - he wouldn't unless there were a greater concern for his safety. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #76 |
107. I read that he does have Secret Service Protection. |
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Diamonique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
36. Yes I think it's fair |
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sallyseven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
38. Boy some of you have such hatred in your hearts |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Hillary wants to have it both ways! |
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Diamonique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Because she's a woman? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. What do you mean, "don't hold me to the same standards and scrutiny as |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
88. Remember when the MSM complained that Gore was mean to Bush? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. What Hatred and Bile on Christmas Eve! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
44. Give me a break. Nancy Reagan gets protection. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
45. Um, yes, it is fair. |
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ISUGRADIA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
50. How many candidats actually NEED security? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. I lived through the Bobby Kennedy assassination |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
77. You mean like George Wallace? He's the only candidate who was shot since Bobby. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. He didn't die |
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Karenca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
51. Of course it's fair. .nt |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
52. Is Obama a former First Spouse? No. But Hillary is. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. It does matter, for it gives Hillary an unfair competitive advantage over the field |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. She can relinquish protection at any time, so probably the best thing to do |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. She should reimburse the government for the Secret Service detail |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. She's the last one to get lifetime protection anyway. They changed the law in 97 |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #71 |
105. You should pay higher taxes for spouting more than your fair share of propaganda |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #66 |
110. Hillary is NOT at the top of my list now, but if any candidates follow |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. I agree she has a right to it - as ALL (since the law was enacted) former First Ladies |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. here's a surprize -- hasn't she already run as a candidate with SS protection? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. She was safely tucked away in New York then |
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cmkramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
55. FWIW |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
61. Good grief!!! |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #61 |
78. Given this kind of irrational Hillary-bashing coming from her own side,thank GOD she has protection! |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. For what is worth |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #83 |
92. Thats the problem here |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. We need a Democrat as Commander-in-Chief to end Bush's wars |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. Deleted message |
pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #83 |
108. I think your political preference against Hillary is what is driving |
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against all enemies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
84. Yes, get over it. |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
94. I think by law, as soon as Obama announces as a candidate for prez |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. I am not sure that he does automatically |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
96. of course it is. |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
98. Yes, she's a former first lady. n/t |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
101. Look at totality of the circumstances. She's Former First Lady, Senator, and Presidential Candidate. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 06:09 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Security is not the issue, who pays for it is. |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 06:47 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. For the reasons stated. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 07:48 PM Response to Reply #102 |
109. That's an issue for Congress to worry about, not Hillary. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
114. Is it fair that Hillary gets regular death threats? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-24-06 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
116. Hit-and-run post, gang |
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