New "Pro-Life" Leadership is Anti-War???

[patrice]

http://signal.baldwincity.com/section/breaking_news/story/5980

A powerful alignment - if it's Real - Damnation if it isn't.

"Pro-Life" is really only changed if it is also Pro-Choice, supporting those who CHOOSE Life over the Merchants of Death and Destruction and their managers of Killing and Dying - BushCo.

What is the definition of malfeasance?

Hare Krsna!

[baldguy]

1. The so-called "pro-life" leadership isn't in favor of life.

They supported, campaigned for, gave money to and voted for the worst mass murderer in American history - George W Bush.

[patrice]

3. They need to proove they've Reformed and are getting Real about Life.

They should choose between Killing/Death and Rational Alternatives.

And SPEAK up publicly about what his/her thinking is in what has been learned about those Pharisees who sell others into their End Times DELUSIONS, misleading so many others and confusing themselves and everyone else into this HORRIBLE Mistake.

That Pro-Life = Anti-War is not a change in anything; Real Pro-Life has ALWAYS been Anti-War. The Pope told American Catholics that the Invasion of Iraq is NOT a "Just War".

Brownback and others are not New leaders, but they've got to find a New Voice to say to Everyone. Pro-Life IS Anti-War, and always has been, and unless and until they do this, Pro-Life is ir-relevant!

Leaders could say this if they CHOSE. Pro-Lifers also need to recognize that in admitting a truth that has been the status-quo for some time, decades in the history of the Catholic and other churches, no growth/learning has occurred without change. I and others hope for a Change in the "Pro-Life" attitude toward Choice, such a change would be evidence of Learning.

Learning what? I would suggest the fact that "God" made each human soul Free. Sin is Slavery.

I'm a teacher/writer; People learning give me hope.

Hare Krsna!

[IndianaGreen]

2. Pax Christi are consistently pro-life

They oppose abortion, the death penalty, and the war in Iraq. The were among the organizers of an antiwar demonstration on the Notre Dame campus when Bush went there to speak 3 years ago.

Pax Christi also wants to redirect government resources from militarism to help the poor and less fortunate.

Pax Christi are a pure pro-life group, quite distinct from the fundie rabble we are so familiar with.

[patrice]

4. I know Catholic Worker House people who have Pax Christi friends.

There are many excellent active AFSC members around and Ecumenical groups.

[MindMatter]

5. And once they figure out that war is anti-life ...

they can move on to disease, which is also anti-life.

Until somebody can explain what all those Iraqis and Americans died for, opposing this invasion and escalation is clearly the pro-life position.

Fighting for stem cell research (and any other scientific advances that will enhance life and reduce suffering) is clearly the pro-life position.

Time to take it straight to those Bible thumping hypocrites. Take the message right to the congregations. Separate the flock from the immoral leadership.

Simple messages like "I support stem cell research because I am pro-life."

[patrice]

7. I strongly agree. "Taking it to them . . ." Doesn't have to be ugly!

It CAN be Beautiful and Loving.

We are in a "teachable moment" for MANY different kinds of people made congruent by the PAIN of what is happening.

Jesus is still here and we are still killing him.

Can we change ourselves?

[Warpy]

6. Talk's cheap

and those anti woman people know they've been caught with their hypocrisies down regarding war and the death penalty.

Expect a lot of pious rhetoric. Don't expect a single petition or having them join peace marches or any other sort of action. Their main purpose is to control the lives of all women through the threat of forced childbirth.

They don't give a damn about the living once they hit the air.

[patrice]

8. "Pro-Life" SHOULD! have Female Political Leadership. n/t

[Warpy]

9. They've pushed a few beaten women out in front

but the true, behind the scenes leadership is 90% male.

[patrice]

10. Too bad there isn't some nationally known Female to do this . . . ?

Independently speak out etc.

I don't know enough to hypothesize who might be think of doing such a thing - Choice + Life + Anti-War + Anti-Capital Punishment + Pro Economic Justice . . . .