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pssst...Kerry is not running because Hillary Clinton fears him.... |
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What a pathetic attempt to stir the pot.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:08 PM
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5. Clinton had nothing to do with Kerry not running. |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:09 PM
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11. Not according to some. |
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Some Duers are adamant that the Clintons orchestrated it.
The OP isn't making fun of all Kerry supporters just a few who knwow who they are.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:11 PM
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14. these people will not post in those idiotic threads... |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:23 PM
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Funny how that works, huh?
It is either a plot against Hillary, or people don't like your posts...hmmm.
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12. do you go into the stupid threads that claim a coup from the... |
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bowels of the party and say that?
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:12 PM
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17. Yeah - and carville wasn't targetting Dean either. You protest too much. |
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Go coverup for the Bushes - isn't that what Clintons do best?
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:13 PM
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19. keep whining....and hating. nt. |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:24 PM
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46. I hate corruption and closed government - you don't - move on and continue |
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your support for secrecy and privilege. That's YOUR wing of the party, not mine. I wouldn't enjoy it the way you do.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:26 PM
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48. yeah thats the ticket. start another thread and blame Clinton for it.. |
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all. its only been a few minutes.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:28 PM
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I don't want anywhere near flame threads, this one or the ones you start.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:14 PM
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Ok bud. As a fellow Iowan I sure hope I meet you someday, perhaps we'll meet while helping fellow democrats get elected?
P.S. - I have nothing against Clinton. Are you attending any of the rallies this weekend?
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:20 PM
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38. That's all this operati... um... poster knows how to do, Seth. |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:39 PM
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73. I don't know why I even let it bother me. |
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Maybe I'll meet him at a Clinton rally one of these days and be able to ask him. lol.
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79. Like I said, whatever you wanna call it. n/t |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:46 PM
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:06 PM
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2. Whats the point in this? |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:08 PM
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6. i have seen too many threads... |
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that are sour grapes about Kerry and used as veiled attempts to slam Clinton. why not just be gracious and move on? always an opportunity to snipe the front runner.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:18 PM
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30. "be gracious and move on" |
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Yeah, why not take your own advice.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:07 PM
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4. Finally, Someone Showing Real Class |
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It is good to see that people at DU are willing to speak sincerely from their hearts, rather than winning cheap points for some ridiculously miniscule sense of power.
It is such people that make political debate a real pleasure to engage.
You are doing a real service to Hillary Clinton by making the transition to her candidacy smoother.
Kudos on that one.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:09 PM
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you can always go post in the Kerry was sunk by Clinton whiner threads.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:18 PM
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34. How Does That Make You Less of a Winner? |
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In all seriousness, you really should have more respect for yourself.
"Whiner threads?"
When Dean dropped out, Kerry supporters were very gracious, despite some real vitriol expressed by the understandably frustrated Deaniacs.
Whatever little smug satisfaction you might gain by rubbing someone's face in a disappointment, you might consider the possibility that you might end up liking yourself more if you were more sympathetic.
And, in some small way, you'd be contributing to making the world a slightly better place to hang out in.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:19 PM
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36. read the gracious Kerry threads now and post there... |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:08 PM
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7. She should start fearing Obama if she hasn't yet: |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:09 PM
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9. yeah, when he withdraws... |
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it will be because she feared to debate him.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:09 PM
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10. k_jerome, I suggest you put down the McAuliffe play book. |
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And stop this BS right now.
Before you turn people off on Hillary more then they already are.
This thread is pointless.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:10 PM
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13. there are several Kerry whine threads... |
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that also slam Clinton that you can post in.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:11 PM
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15. Like we need more acrimony |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:14 PM
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20. ya know, i don't understand why Kerry withdrawing has... |
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to be used as an excuse to attack Clinton some more. go protest there.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:16 PM
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Because only a few DUers are even aware of what you are responding to, this thread looks more like an attack on Kerry.
Fight the baseless BS on their threads so all can see.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:18 PM
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31. you are probably right. nt. |
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27. Didn't say it should. And I'm not. |
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But what's wrong with speculating that she's quietly thinning the herd, so to speak.
Meanwhile, the last thing we need on the board is grade school dynamics "They started it!"
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41. i think what you want is no response to Clinton hating... |
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Wed Jan-24-07 05:23 PM
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134. Emotions are high. People are lashing out. I'm not condoning their behavior |
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but I understand it. Saying you think the idea is ridiculous is not the problem. But there is a civil way to do that which doesn't include making fun. That's all I'm saying.
Whether you like it or not, you represent your candidate on the board. You are her evangelist, as it were. The last thing you want to do is make people less inclined to check her out because you feel like you have to engage in tit for tat with another politician's supporters.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:11 PM
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16. Psst....Hillary won't ever be President. |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:14 PM
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21. I'm not a betting man. |
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But she doesn't have a better chance then Gore, Edwards, or Obama.
Despite what NATIONAL (not Iowa or NH) polls tell you a YEAR out.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:16 PM
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26. Gore will not run because she fears him. lol. nt. |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:19 PM
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35. People like you do NOTHING to help Hillary. |
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Absolutely nothing.
This thread, I'll say it again, is pointless.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:21 PM
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40. If Gore runs he will wipe the floor with HRC. |
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This useless flamebait thread is a great way to endear yourself to other DUers.
I'm sure your insults towards John Kerry will also help Mrs. Clinton's cause. Surely the Kerry supporters will flock to her now.
:eyes:
Try being positive for once, instead of trashing anyone who doesn't agree with you.
I'm starting to understand why the mods tweaked the block functions.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:16 PM
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28. Sure. I'll bet $100 that Hillary won't win the presidency in 2008. |
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I'll be waiting for you to accept this bet, but I won't hold my breath.
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I'd love to make a quick grand.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:23 PM
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45. Heck, I'm willing to bet $10,000. |
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It'll go a long way towards law school.
Somehow I doubt any of the Clinton supporters will bite.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:25 PM
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47. that Clinton will never be President as you claimed? done. nt. |
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49. Hillary has an uphill climb. |
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Whether you admit it or not. I hope she likes to climb, or else she might just fall down.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:33 PM
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62. Should we draft a legal agreement, in case you don't pay up? |
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I have a hunch you'll conveniently "forget" this little bet when it becomes clear HRC won't win the 2008 primary.
So if you're *really* going to bet me on Mrs. Clinton's prospects, I propose we create a legally binding written and signed agreement, so I can take you to court when I get stiffed on the bet.
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71. Got a fax machine, e-mail or a mailing address? I'll need your John Hancock. |
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I don't want to go to the trouble of drafting a legally binding document when my suspicion is that you'll waste my time and refuse to sign it.
So, unless you're planning any visits to Phoenix soon, I'll need some way of sending you this document so you can read over it and sign it.
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74. make sure it is drafted in a manner that will... |
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not break the gambling laws in Iowa please. after you draft it, i will supply the email address so I can review it. pdf format is preferrable.
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161. Email me a copy too. I'm in on this EASY bet |
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PDF preferred. I can edit it and send over to this person. I'm not that far away from iowa, so I could certainly pay a visit to get my betting proceeds...
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42. well, you've changed the bet haven't you dude. nt. |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:29 PM
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55. If I bet you Hillary would never be president, we'd have to wait until her death. |
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You may have nothing better to do, but I'm not going to place a bet that lasts for possibly 20 years.
If HRC doesn't win in 2008, she'll never win, IMHO. I'm betting you on '08 because that's when she will run.
If she somehow ascends to the presidency after that, be assured I will honor every penny of the bet as I pick my jaw up off the floor. But that's even less likely than her winning in 2008, isn't it?
But I am 100% sure you will find some Clintonesque way of weaseling out of this bet. Meaning all your confidence and bluster about 2008 is really just for show.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:31 PM
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58. thats what you originally claimed hero.... |
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what odds do you offer on side bets?
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:35 PM
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66. Fine, agree to a legally binding document and we'll do it. |
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I'll bet you $10,000 that HRC will never be POTUS. Ever.
I am even willing to wait as much as 20 years for my money, if that's what you are proposing.
But I want a legally binding agreement if we're really going to bet on this, so I can take you or your estate to court and get my money when this bet ends.
If you're so confident in HRC's abilities, then you'll have no problem signing such a statement. After all, it means if she somehow does win, I owe you $10,000.
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70. make sure the document is drafted offshore... |
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or somewhere gambling is legal between unlicensed individuals. otherwise, we have to do it the old fashioned way.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:41 PM
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75. "Old-fashioned way" means I win the bet and you stiff me. |
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I'd rather drive to Nevada or someplace legal and draft it.
There's nothing I would enjoy more than seeing the look on your face as a judge makes you pay me 10 thousand.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:41 PM
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77. you seem to project your own dishonesty quite easily. nt. |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:49 PM
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85. This from the DUer who posted an entire thread of flamebait. |
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I forgot, you're such a paragon of virtue, aren't you? :eyes:
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87. what does that have to do with betting? draft it... |
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98. You expect me to leave the country? |
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You may not be doing anything with your time right now, but I refuse to take time off just to leave the country and draft this. This may surprise you, but I do have obligations.
If you keep me posted on Iowa gambling laws, however (in other words, don't make ME do all the work), then I will happily draft it. Just don't lose your box of crayons; you still need to sign it.
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102. hire an offshore attorney. no need to leave the country. duh.nt. |
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110. Okay, sure, I'll hire an attorney. But I'll need the money first. |
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So once again, you expect ME to do all the work, put money down on lawyers, and get the thing drafted.
Meanwhile you sit back in Iowa and do nothing, pay nothing, contribute nothing.
Sorry, pal, that's not how it works. If there's going to be any work done, I expect to meet you halfway on it, not do it all myself.
You would be a real hoot if you ever got elected to Congress, I'm sure.
Then again, I doubt you'd ever get elected to anything - pissing other people off seems to be your forte.
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116. you are the one that demands it. of course you are responsible. duh. |
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126. And of course you dishonestly weasel your way out of this |
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Just as I predicted.
I suppose in 20-30 years I'll have to come find you and ask for the $10,000 you will inevitably owe. Which you'll conveniently forget about.
Business as usual, if HRC is your idea of a good president.
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128. i accepted the wager. you are dancing on a document that will... |
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somehow make illegal gambling legally binding. you are scared.
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136. Yes, all because I fear Hillary Clinton. |
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I trust the shame and humiliation you will suffer watching your favorite candidate go down in flames will be satisfying enough.
It's beneath me to take advantage of other people, or to engage unarmed individuals in battles of wits.
Enjoy your time here. Let us know when we can be blessed with more of your wonderful insights.
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88. Yeah, I'll bet my house on it. n/t |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:52 PM
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91. the original bet? otherwise offer odds. nt. |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:15 PM
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23. The joke, my friend, is on you |
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We'll see how well the primaries go...enjoy being an ass in the meantime. Can I burn a flag now, or will you turn me in...
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29. you are certainly free to whine about it....nt. |
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Enjoy your wet dream. Fox News shares your fantasy.
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39. I think you mean he fears Hillary, Either way, I think you're wrong, nt |
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43. no, i meant what i wrote. haven't you heard? nt. |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:27 PM
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50. So that's your pitch to entice Kerry supporters to go for your candidate? |
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Well, I hope for Hillary's sake, you're not a paid blogger. Because your utter lack of class doesn't reflect well on your candidate.
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56. no. there are Hillary attack threads started by Kerry whiners... |
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you can go post in instead.
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78. K_Jerome -- I'm asking you, begging you to please alert the mods |
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to this thread that you started, and tell them to lock it, because you made a mistake. I mean -- the primaries are a year away. So some Kerry people are mad at Hillary today. Well, they're upset. But what's your problem? You should have calmly asked for proof and then shrugged it off as upset Kerry supporters. Please consider killing this thread. It's ugly, and it's hurtful.
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80. you are right. done. nt. |
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90. Her stance to make flag burning a federal crime? |
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All in favor of giving up First Amendment rights....please stand up...
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:27 PM
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51. Nice. Some real class there. |
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I'm just glad your NOT a Kerry supporter. We do have certain standards you see.
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:30 PM
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57. A spirited debate about the Democratic contenders for the Pesidency |
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is a good debate. It's a dogfight between candidates. My Dem vs. your Dem. So what?
John Kerry announced he isn't going run and a lot of DUers are sad about that.
Why make it personal & vindictive? Why the slap in the face?
What have you won? Enjoy other people's pain much?
And fyi - I never joined in on those Clinton vs. Kerry threads as I like the Democratic field (all of them and hope Gore joins in also)..
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pretend I'm a civilian on a passenger train and really let me have it.
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60. k_jerome, I've tried to stay out of arguments with you |
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61. i'm sure you are consistent... |
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and do the same to those that started threads attacking Clinton in the thin guise of Kerry mourning. i am just sure.
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86. Why so bitter, k_Jerome? |
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You got what you wanted, didn't you? And I'll echo the sentiments upthread - you're not winning any Hillary converts this way.
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89. see you in the Hillary hating threads spreaking your message of peace bro. nt. |
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92. I don't hate Hillary. |
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But I don't want her as our nominee or President.
And neither do A LOT of Democrats. A lot of them who respect her, and like her!
She has no better chance then Obama or Edwards at the nomination, NONE! Despite what NATIONAL, not Iowa or NH, but NATIONAL polls would tell you. A year out, mind you!
So I tell you this out of respect for her, not out of malice. I'm a Kerry supporter who won't support her for the nomination.
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94. I'm a sister, but that's okay. |
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I am not a Hillary hater, I just don't trust her, and your over-the-top "support" of her isn't winning any friends.
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95. sorry, see you spreading peace in the Hillary hating threads, sis. nt. |
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67. you should tell with the Alert button. nt. |
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Wed Jan-24-07 04:38 PM
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Never thought of that, thanks for the suggestion.
I let them know what I thought of this purposely designed thread to pick fights with Kerry supporters.
If you represent the mass of Hillary supporters and their views, count me and the rest of the Democratic community OUT!
Not that you have us anyway!
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68. With fans like this person, who needs Faux Snooze |
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All I can think is that this guy is a Repig plant...
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72. Do you think this is a Hillary supporter? |
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I don't, but an asshole for sure.
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83. True- he would wipe her a** in debates on leadership and knowledge. |
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Her henchman are strong arming the competetion out. She want to coast through the primaries and into the general will she will lose in a landslide. Believe me, people loath her and that includes many, many Democrats who aren't that dedicated to the party.
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84. Kerry's faults or the faults of his supporters dont aide Hillary. But keep on thinking that. |
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Please, I beg you to keep on thinking that.
Hillary will have to answer for her support of Bush and his war-and her calcualted, public dissing of the "Micheal Moore/Move On anti war crowd" (AKA the ACTIVE Democratic base) with or without Kerry in the primaries.
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93. Absolutely sad and pathetic.... |
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If you hope to make your candidate likeable like that, you are far from succeeding.
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96. Lovely post, jerome. Just the sort of spirit I look for in |
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Democratic party circles. It exudes welcome and participation in the bigger picture, the broader canvas, the individual, particular detail among the broader strokes.
Maybe it's the lack of malevolence I like the best, though. The notion that any one, no matter their investment in the party, in the nation's civil health, could find welcome in your company.
Lovely.
Just lovely.
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97. thanks..i look forward to you spreading that message in the Clinton hater threads. nt. |
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99. This isn't about her. It's about you. |
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Lovely post.
Tells us all we need to know about your role in the big picture.
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101. thats what i thought. nt. |
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103. Blue_In-AK! Howdy! Nice to see you. |
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I hope all's well your way.
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Nice to see you, too. Things are fine up here. I'm getting pretty excited about the march in DC this weekend ... I leave tomorrow in the middle of the night. Will you be there? I'd love to meet you sometime. :)
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127. I can't make this one, which is my loss, and I would have |
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loved to meet you and shake your hand.
That November election pushed Dubya against the wall, and the pigheaded little twerp still insists on his "surge."
Then this afternoon I listened to Chuck Hagel and John Kerry rip Bush a new one on the Iraq escalation. I've never heard Hagel so fierce before. And Kerry was his usual thorough self.
I want Dubya to live for another 50 years at least, so he can read, year after year, what his legacy amounted to. He's earned those low, low approval ratings. Let the historians have at him.
You have yourself a tremendous trip to Washington. I'll be there with you in spirit.
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104. don't believe you. nt. |
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105. Folks, people like k_jerome are why we have the Block feature. |
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I suspect many have used it already on this charming fellow.
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Wed Jan-24-07 05:01 PM
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108. Unlike this topic, most of the anti-Clinton threads are about her positions on THE ISSUES. |
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I have never seen a thread that merely attacks her supporters w/o any references to her positions on the issues.
Surely you have better arguments to aide Hillary than a mere attack on former Kerry supporters.
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111. This thread was started by ONE Kerry supporter. |
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And isn't even that active of a thread.
This is what you started this flame thread for?
HA!
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113. tell me, how many Clinton hate threads would be an acceptable... |
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ratio? obviously 1:1 is not good. we Clinton supporters should accept more attack than we dish out.
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I'll bite- on what Democratic Party ISSUES do you disagree with Kerry? |
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I dont have a problem with you "dishing out" attacks on Kerry over his stances on the issues- in turn, I dont have a problem with people who dish out attacks Hillary for the same reason.
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119. An interesting theory- deals with the issue of how our party selects candidates. |
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I'm not so sure I agree-but seeing how many in the DLC supported Lieberman against the DEM nominee-or listening to Carvile/Begalla dissing Dean- I can see why some Kerry supporters or former Dean supporters think that the "high ups" try to keep down candidates who enjoy grass-roots suppprt...
In any event, BLMs thread invites discussion on how our leadership goes about picking candidates-it does not attack Hill's DU supporters- your thread merely attempts to insult former Kerry supporters and raises no arguable issues.
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124. please analyze my op line by line and show me where i... |
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130. Good luck with the semantics games. |
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We all know that is all Hillary has- that is why we "hate on her" so much.
I remember when the media and war supporting conservative Democrats all claimed that the grass-roots "have an irrational hatred of Bush" rather than an honest disagreement on ISSUES as well. It appears that not-so-great minds think alike.
Good luck with that old chesnut.
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135. I'm glad you decided to give thought a try. |
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Keep at it and you might get it right sooner or later-practice makes perfect. ;)
As it is, no one is buying your attempt to say you were not trying to insult Kerry supporters- unlike Hillary, most regular old Democrats know when to call a spade a spade, despite semantics.
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142. nice Clinton jab. Old Democrat or old white dude? lol. nt. |
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149. Nah- I mean "Regular old" as in NOT invited to DLC cocktail parties. |
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Which, to my knowledge, is the only place you can meet a DLCer other than on a message board.
Certainly not at a bus stop, grocery line, barber shop or bar stool-or even at an offical DEM Party meet-up, like you would a regular old Democrat.
Ya better get used to Clinton jabs- no one likes her except the conservtive owned media and the above mentioned out-of touch DLC cocktail circuit.Talk about old white dudes!!!
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150. oh, "sounds" like an old white dude. nt. |
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154. Only to supporters of the DLC cocktail circuit. Normal people understand folk venacular. |
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While supporters of the out of touch DLC insiders still attempt these kinds of silly semantics tricks in place of actual arguments.
So this is how you support/defend Hillary- by arguing over what "regular old" means? How funny.
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159. good luck with that old whi...normal person. |
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"Surely you have better arguments to aide Hillary than a mere attack on former Kerry supporters."
I guess they do not, judging by this thread. :)
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112. While I put Mrs. Clinton last in my list, this thread pretty much... |
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...cements my opinion. With fans like this troll, who needs enemies.
Anyone who gives turncoat James Carville one stinking dime for his turncoat behavior on Election Night when he gave away Kerry's plans in Ohio is no friend of mine.
Until Mrs. Clinton fires Carville and after he apologizes publicly to Kerry, I certainly plan of working for any other candidate in 2008.
Until Mrs. Clinton apologizes to John Kerry for her pathetic comments on his so-called "botched joke", I will do all I can to make sure that my preferred candidate wins.
At the moment, I'm for Obama. It will be interesting to see what Carville The Turncoat has up his sleeve for him.
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114. you should start a thread with that whi...rant. nt. |
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115. I miss the spirit of inclusion in jerome's post here. |
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Perhaps I'm reading into it too much, or not enough.
I find this kind of snickering and flame-baiting exhibited by the OP fairly well represented on elementary schoolyards.
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118. here you go. be consistent... |
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120. Iowa, huh? Interesting state. Very interesting. |
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122. thats what i thought. nt. |
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125. BLM's thread had a point, and arguement to it. |
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BLM stated the case, and left open the option of debate.
Yours did not. This was meant to get ugly, and not to have any general point. You can direct us to BLM's thread, and the only thing IT shows is how others have POINTS and you do NOT.
End this flame-thread now, moderators!!
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No hating on Iowa because of this guy! Believe me, he is an embarassment to our state and our party.
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143. and they call it...puppy love. nt. |
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145. Hi, Seth. I'm an Iowa zealot. You get no argument from me on |
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Iowa.
My target was the OP, not the state. The state deserves better representation than the OP is offering in this thread.
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cold fields of the Hawkeye State as the caucus candidates stomp over the snowy farms and small towns.
I love the Iowa caucuses. Most states run primaries, and they're not all bad, but I really love the caucus system the best.
I think you folks do it right out there.
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123. It's a pathetic, childish, classless troll that wants to embarrass himself |
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Everyone makes choices. This is his.
I'd venture to think that people in Mrs. Clinton's camp would rather not have people like this anywhere near their campaign offices.
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131. Hi to you, zulchzulu. Very good to run into you here |
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this afternoon.
I wish the OP of this thread could have heard Senator Kerry discussing the Iraq crisis on the floor of the senate today.
I think it would have given pause. Because the address was powerful and thorough and persuasive.
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138. Greetings to you as well |
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Senator Kerry said it with class and leadership. I look forward to his efforts in the Senate, although my heart is certainly a little broken today.
Wow...am I whining?
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148. No, you aren't "whining," but you are doing what you always do |
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on DU -- you're making perfect sense. I loved the idea of an intelligent soul in the White House, and after the Ohio debacle, we were left with two consecutive terms of a horrendously stupid man instead.
A compulsive, egotistical chimp with evil Dick Cheney organ-grinding the pro-war music in the background.
The nation deserved a chance to be more intelligently led.
We're a year out now from the Iowa caucuses. Let's elect us a strong ticket and kick a little ass.
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106. there is no need for you |
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to be an asshole, k jerome
even though I have spent a good deal of time on this board defending HRC (and will continue to do so), if Kerry had decided to run I would have supported him.
You're not doing Hillary Clinton any favors by starting threads like this.
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107. Can we lock this please? |
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Before k_jerome does anymore damage to the reputation of Hillary Clinton supporters?
:crazy:
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129. Indeed, if HRC read this, she probably wouldn't like k_jerome very much. |
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A sentiment now shared by much of DU.
Good job, k_jerome. You're a uniter, not a divider.
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idea, but I've taken the liberty to emailing the link of this thread to Senator Clinton's office.
I think she'd want to be keep up-to-date on the zeal of her supporters.
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Although it might give Carville The Turncoat some pointers, that was a good move.
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144. yeah yeah. tell tell. lol. nt. |
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146. How come your posts and threads lack substance? |
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You seem to be a one trick pony. You have nothing good to say, and thats it. You bring nothing to the table, literally.
At least BLM's thread that you are crying foul about had a point, and was worth debating.
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151. Not unlike Hillary's vapid, focus tested talking points. Coincidence? ;) |
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153. Hehe. You are right. |
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155. you cagey old whi...Democrat you. nt. |
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157. Again, bringing nothing of substance to the table k_jerome! |
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Geez-us. Bush brings more to the table substance wise then you do!
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162. Oh- more weak, unfunny semantics tricks- I knew that was all you had. |
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Do you really think that hanging on my use of the phrase "regular old Democrat" defeats my points or helps Hillary in any way, shape or form?
No wait- dont answer that- I forgot-you are not here to defend Hillary- we all know that is impossible.
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156. I often wonder just how far you will go. |
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I would never put you on ignore because I think it is important to see what is going on. I just took the one or two I had on ignore off.
What you have posted is tasteless, thoughtless, and meanspirited.
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158. "...tasteless, thoughtless, and meanspirited." |
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I couldn't put it better myself.
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