Guiliani Actually Made a Good Point on Larry King

[Bullet1987]

Guiliani said since he ran a government he tends to be a very decisive person and one of the problems with Washington is that they don't want to take any risks anymore...they don't want to do what they're elected to do and that's DECIDE!!! He criticized the "non-binding resolution" like I also have done because he said it doesn't settle anything. Then Larry King retorted and said it made a statement...and Guiliani said that's what the media does. That's what Tim Russert and Rush Limbaugh do...we elect Congressman to make decisions...not "non-binding resolutions" that only "make a statement," but don't get anything at all done!!!

Excellent point he made. He said he has more respect for the people in Congress who want to cut funding (even though he didn't exactly say he supported that).

[Colobo]

1. I agree with him

He does have a point.

[primative1]

16. We also dont elect them to ....

We also dont elect them so that they can spend their entire terms running for the next higher office.
When will these people quit granstanding and actualy do what we elected them to do.
Outside of Kucinich and Edwards the announced Dem field gets nothing but my contempt. Particularly the Senators. Shut the frick up about telling me what you will do in 3 years and do something today. Thats your test, what you do. Talk is oh so cheap.

[hijinx87]

2. I need a nap.

every time I agree with a rethug, it usually just means
I am really tired.

[Nite Owl]

3. But that assumes that

his decisions would be the right ones. Just being decisive no matter what is the same image that this present administration has, it's their way or the high way, they decide we are supposed to be good little citizens and agree with the them. It's the conservative authoritarianisn, the father figure that conseratives seek and seem to need. They are the daddy and we had better listen or else. Sure the dems are being too undecisive, they fear being framed by the cons as not supporting the troops etc. but having someone like Gholi in charge is scarey. I'd rather the measured responses than someone like him. I know you aren't saying you are for him but the consequences of his thinking are more of what is in the WH now.

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. Yes, but how about 9/11? Did he update the audience about 9/11?

[Bobbie Jo]

5. That's all we need....

Another "Decider." :eyes:

[Mind_your_head]

6. The Neo-Cons are "decisive".....they were and ARE STILL

determined to 'get their wars on' no matter how much they have to lie, deceive, and no matter what 'we, the people', the generals, or anyone else on the whole dang planet thinks about their decision.

No, just 'decisiveness' alone is not necessarily a good quality.

[Bullet1987]

7. Don't get me wrong...

...I'm not Guiliani fan. And definently don't agree with him on the war (he supports the surge amoung other things). I'm just saying I agree with the point he made about "non-binding resolutions."

[Mind_your_head]

8. I don't think ANYONE (except the warmongers/profiteers) like the

non-binding resolution, so it's not a "very risky" thing for Guiliani to say (even though he said he likes to take 'risks', there's NO political risk AT ALL involved in him saying this).

He's the type would lead the 'cheerleading squad' for EVERYONE ELSE to take the risks. Btw, I just read today that Guiliani is another chickenhawk who got a 'weird'/unusual/"one-in-million" type deferment from Vietnam. (I didn't know this tidbit of info before, I'd bet a lot of other people don't know it either).

Guiliani would be another authoritarian/dictator sort (a "decider" *co style)

[bigdarryl]

9. Guiliani is a problem if he gets the republican nomination. someone...

brought up the fact that as mayor he attended hundreds of 9 11 memorials for victims while Hillary as New York Senator attended none.the person said end of discussion i don't need to know anything else about the two.That is a factor and i can see the republicans beating her over the head about her not attending any 9 11 memorials as Senator.

[Mind_your_head]

10. My understanding is that New Yorkers didn't like Guiliani AT ALL

prior to 9/11 and they were glad he was 'on his way out'.....then 9/11 happened and he was thrust into the limelight as "America's Mayor" (b/c our pResident had gone AWOL once again and wasn't reassuring the nation).....someone had to.

I would have a difficult time trusting someone who can't even "run his OWN life" to be my leader or make decisions about other people's lives. Guiliani had (has?) many 'weird' relationships in his life. Do a little digging on him prior to 9/11. Just because someone is good at attending memorial services does not a good leader make. Would you propose to elect as POTUS a professional "wailing woman" too?

[snowbear]

12. I dunno BigD...

In the state of NY, is Rudy really more popular than Hillary --- or are they about the same as far as "likeability" goes?

I have no idea..

As mayor of the city though ----- that's his duties --- to attend the funerals of all the municipalty workers who were lost that day.

If Hillary had been the mayor, she would have also attended the muni employee's services too I would assume.

What mayor in the U.S. wouldn't?

[MasterDarkNinja]

11. Executive Branch = much easier to be that kind of politican then the Legislature

Rudy's just been in the executive branch, and the Executive Branch = much easier to be that kind of politican then the Legislator/president it's easy to go "I'm the decider, this is what I want" and stick to it a lot more then if you're in the legislature.

Besides, at this point despite the fact that the democrats are trying to push through nonbinding resolutions, if they were to try something else that would limit Bush's power it would definitely fail with their slim majority over the senate, the republicans would keep on filibustering it forever (remember how all of those so called antiwar repubs went along with blocking debate on the nonbinding resolutions, they'd do it again to). Plus wouldn't Bush get the opportunity to veto almost everything that would help get us out of Iraq or stop us from going deeper into Iraq?

[OneBlueSky]

13. he sure as hell was decisive about getting rid of all that WTC steel . . .

otherwise known as evidence . . .

[Kiouni]

14. Baby steps Bob, Baby Steps.

I agree that its not enough but right now I'll take what ever I can get.

[DrDan]

15. bulls***

it got 3 days of debate on CSPAN - lets let it play out

it is obviously a small step - but finally one in the right direction - and it is drawing some GOPers - anything stronger might have not had that result

and of course rudy is going to criticize it - try to make the gop look more decisive - look more like deciders