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Thu Feb-15-07 10:44 AM
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9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 |
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9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11
aaaaahhhhhhhhgggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will SOMEONE free me from this nightmare that is GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS is our president speaking live on our televisions for the second day in a row.
GOD help us please.
I'm sorry DU but I can't turn away. When this idiot is speaking it's like a Black and Decker drill is boring into the side of my head.
WHY CAN NO ONE SEE WHAT IS SO OBVIOUS?
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Thu Feb-15-07 10:48 AM
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1. There is no doubt in my mind that this man is INSANE. the |
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words/phrases coming from his mouth, his laughable ways of emphasizing certain words, his demeanor - the leader of the free world is batshit crazy. Please, send in the white coats and lead him away to a rubber room where he belongs!
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Thu Feb-15-07 10:49 AM
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2. beating the drums of war again. |
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Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 10:51 AM by ginnyinWI
His ONLY power rests with being able to frighten Americans into supporting him in his military excursions. Sept. 11 gave him his opening and he jumped.
Ah, for the days when the King had to ride into battle at the head of his army of troops!! If he had to do what Henry V had to do, he wouldn't do it!!
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Thu Feb-15-07 10:51 AM
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4. you've sure got that right. |
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he's truly chickenhawk scum.
not to mention an idiot of criminal proportions . . .:dunce:
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Thu Feb-15-07 10:51 AM
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3. WHY CAN NO ONE SEE WHAT IS SO OBVIOUS? |
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To quote The Little Prince, what is essential is invisible to the eye.
I know this sounds like a contradiction, but it isn't IMO. When a lot of people require delusional thinking in order to keep a modicum of sanity, they CAN'T see the obvious, they WON'T see the obvious, they DON'T WANT TO see the obvious. The essential is invisible to THEIR eyes.
If one can master social psychology wherein you can persuade people en masse to take up a position (or to do nothing), you have power. 9-11 was powerful and I think a lot of people have fear that is the repercussion of that day, recognized or not. It shouldn't be so, but it is.
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Thu Feb-15-07 10:57 AM
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7. "delusional thinking in order to keep a modicum of sanity" |
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Yeah. I have good liberal friends who fit that bill perfectly. And yes, 9-11 was a huge psychological event . . . and, again, I know people who simply don't want to explore what might have really happened that day.
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ginnyinWI
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Thu Feb-15-07 10:57 AM
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8. you have defined the mind of a Conservative. |
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Their thinking isn't based on reality--only on "supposed-to-be". Ideology, in other words.
I do think this country is frightened, deliberately. It's not the first time it's happened in history, but shouldn't we be waking up to being manipulated by now? It's the same old tactics every time. "Danger, Danger, Danger--we've got to take up arms and fight the enemy--I can keep you safe--elect and follow me!" Without us feeling as though we needed them, where would they be?
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Thu Feb-15-07 11:27 AM
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14. Wow, you nailed it, IMO. |
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9/11 was powerful, indeed. Without getting into any of the discussion of the causes or events of that day, it stands as a psychological event that stunned the country and much of the world. The long-term response to the day is the key to the campaign of fear. I'm no psychologist, but I think a study would prove that people probably fall into two rough categories regarding 9/11: Those so traumatized to the core (or so shaken in their belief of this country as undefeatable or untouchable) that their minds essentially hard-wired a new fear mechanism, easily triggered; and those who, regardless of the short-term trauma and emotion, were able to sort out the facts from the feelings and became suspicious of the use of fear as a political tool. Over time, the first group will shrink as the second group grows, but five and a half years is long enough to have established some kind of stability in those numbers.
There is a core group of people in this country who are going to shrink when the fear bell rings. With the help of the media ringing that bell daily, that core group remains terrified and reactive -- Bush is counting on a public display of fear significant enough that he can justify in his own mind (and in a historical sense) what he "needs" to do. Twenty percent is a vast minority, but if that twenty percent is hyper-responsive, publicly vocal about their fear, and combative with those who try to reason with them, it seems like a much larger number and overwhelms the majority voice of reason. History will use this era as a case study in the politics of fear.
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Thu Feb-15-07 11:55 AM
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this can be the only reason why all these Repug congressmen & women can get up there in the House and STILL (after all these failures, after all this time, after all these billions spent)--they can STILL get up there and blither about 9/11, 9/11, 9/11 to --justify holding out for "victory" in Iraq. Because many of their constituency still responds like Pavlov's dog to the invocation of 9/11 in this context. The Repugs must be convinced that the fear response is still working for them. To the other side, they seem delusional and bordering on insane.
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Thu Feb-15-07 10:53 AM
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We should all be scared out of our minds right about now. The pres has had stuttering stammering speaches on two consecutive days. Before yesterday, he was saying that there is no plan to attack Iran (just like in Oct 2002, he said that we would not attack Iraq {five months later}). Now he is saying that he will do what he has to do to protect our troops. He's not even denying that he will attack. The third carrier group is en route to the region, a naval admiral has been put in charge of the war that to date has taken place in the mountains and desert, we have given patriot missle batteries to our friends in the region for defense purposes (are the insurgents launching missles right now?), and let's not forget that the shrub is sporting approval numbers of 30%, the VP's vp is about to be found guilty of perjury regarding the swiftboating of a critic of the last war at Dick's command.
I apologise for the rant, but I am afraid that we are seeing the demonization of Iran in preparation for the upcoming war. What really scares me is that I believe that if the shrub attacks Iran- unprovoked- he will be run out of office, but if we should be attacked by "terrorists" like 9/11 or worse, he could start a war under martial law with no recourse from Congress or the people.
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Thu Feb-15-07 11:07 AM
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11. It's about the next election. |
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They feel that they can do whatever they want, as long as they keep up the image that Republicans are tough. The real problem is that even though their names are similar, Iran is no Iraq! They are a very well armed and formidable foe. And our military is hurting and broke. If the Congress doesn't do something to stop this, it will really hurt our country long-term.
I'm saying this could all be political. They often act primarily for political purposes. In this case, it is to make sure that the public is scared enough to vote for the Republican next time, thinking that they are the tougher party. Look at how they are trying to goad Democrats into withdrawing funding for the troops. That's so they will have a cudgel to flog us with during the campaign season.
"Weak on Defense! Won't fund the troops! Cut and Run!" (seen this movie before)
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Thu Feb-15-07 11:16 AM
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This past November we saw the Democrats win in a near landslide as an indirect vote against the pres. Plus, this is a rabid sprint into another war. I think that once wee open the Pandora's box that is Iran, we will be in a shitstorm that will be like a mix of the Great Depression and WWII combined. The oil will be shut off from the Middle East and other countries will refuse to sell us oil. We will run out of food (that we currently import) and the rest of the world will turn on us. Shrub will declare marital law and rule as our king.
I believe that this is much worse than a Repuke's are strong, Dems are we on defense and security. 70plus% of the country is against the shrub and against this, or any, war.
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Thu Feb-15-07 11:36 AM
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15. I'm not saying they won't try to go to war with Iran |
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Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 11:36 AM by ginnyinWI
I'm saying that they may do it because it's their best way to hang onto power--the Repub party, that is. If they can get us all mired down in another armed conflict--this time with Iran, no less--that people will be again too scared to trust the security of the country to the Democrats. For them, concern for the wellbeing of this country comes second to the wellbeing of the GOP.
I think that's why Congressional Dems are walking such a fine line right now; they know anything they do can and will be used against them in the next election. So what they do has to be seen as stong as well as smart. People are on board with the Dems now, but only temporarily. They could easily lose majority, and the Repubs are trying to guarantee that by ratcheting up war, security threats, and fear in order to hang onto the White House.
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Thu Feb-15-07 11:44 AM
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17. I wish that the dems would do more and realise that we will support them |
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I think that if they were to toss out the shrub and dick, everyone who is opposed to shrub 70% plus would vote for them.
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Thu Feb-15-07 10:56 AM
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6. You are going to be hearing Giuliani repeating that for the next |
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year and a half or more if he is elected.
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Thu Feb-15-07 10:59 AM
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9. Terra Terra Terra Terra Terra Terra Terra Terra |
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Thu Feb-15-07 11:03 AM
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10. My theory is that no one actually watches him |
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I can't without feeling embarrassed for him. I think most people turn away, and then just listen to what the media says about him. Thus, they get the impression he said something smarter once they turned away.
Back when he was re-elected governor in Texas, I started asking people what they liked about him, what he had said that they agreed with, etc. With zero exceptions, even here in Austin, out of about a hundred people who voted for him, I could not find a single person who knew what he sounded like. They all had to admit ultimately that they could not remember once hearing his voice. He had been governor for four years, campaigned twice, won two elections by easy margins--the second election he got around two-thirds of the vote--and probably 80% of the voters had never heard him speak. I knew Texans who watched his announcement of running for president just to finally see him speak.
That's the power of the media. These days you don't even have to see the emperor to appreciate his new clothes.
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Thu Feb-15-07 11:10 AM
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if the polls have been telling us anything at all for the past few months, it is that the people have completely stopped listening to him. he could have a nationally televised speech every day, and it wouldn't make a difference.
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Thu Feb-15-07 11:39 AM
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16. How sad that people don't lambaste him for using his greatest failure to gain support. |
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Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source lam·baste /læmˈbeɪst, -ˈbæst/ Pronunciation Key -
–verb (used with object), -bast·ed, -bast·ing. Informal. 1. to beat or whip severely. 2. to reprimand or berate harshly; censure; excoriate. Mmm, excoriate. "Excoriate the pResident for using his greatest failure to gain support."
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Thu Feb-15-07 12:48 PM
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19. 9/11 in the lynch pin of the idiot boy-king's presidency |
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and sometimes it's difficult to fathom that the magnitude of that failure is rivaled by many, many others including Katrina, Abu Ghraib, torture and rendition, domestic spying without a warrant, the demise of habeas corpus, and the entire debacle of the Iraq war. This president will go down in history as the worst president ever.
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Thu Feb-15-07 01:18 PM
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20. Well, to quote what the Idiot Son regurgitated yesterday: |
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"What's worse, that the government knew or that the government didn't know?"
His own words damn him...and us.
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