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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:43 PM
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White House Advisers Searching for Ways to ‘Bypass Congress Altogether’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/17/bush-bypass-congress/

White House Advisers Searching for Ways to ‘Bypass Congress Altogether’

Bush is “struggling for relevancy in the same way many other second-term presidents have,” Newsweek observed recently. “But Bush’s burden seems much harder than other presidents in recent memory.” 71 percent of Americans see Bush as a “lame duck” president, and 58 percent “wish the Bush presidency were simply over.”

U.S. News reports that conservatives have seen the writing on the wall and are now advising Bush to “jump start” his final two years by pushing through as much as he can by executive fiat:

With President Bush unable to get much traction so far in moving his agenda through Congress or in improving his job-approval ratings with the public, White House advisers are casting about for ways to jump-start his final two years, including issuing executive orders to get things done without having to ask for support from the Democratic-controlled Congress.

“He should get a list of the executive orders for the last 200 years, as a guide, and choose what he wants to do,” says an informal Bush adviser. One proposal that fiscal conservatives are pushing is to halve all capital-gains taxes, as a way to encourage investment and job creation.

Some conservatives argue that even if Bush somehow regains his political footing, whatever he might work out with the Democratic majority in Congress wouldn’t be very good legislation, so he should go the executive-order route and bypass Congress altogether.

Bush has already begun to implement the strategy. Last month, Bush signed Executive Order 12866 to put political appointees — rather than experienced civil servants — in charge of regulatory agencies. The order would “give the White House much greater control over the rules and policy statements that the government develops to protect public health, safety, the environment, civil rights and privacy.” Columbia Law School professor Peter L. Strauss said the move “achieves a major increase in White House control over domestic government. … Having lost control of Congress, the president is doing what he can to increase his control of the executive branch.”
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:47 PM
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1. Resignation comes to mind...
I'm sure there wouldn't be any resolutions, binding or non,opposing that. :)
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:48 PM
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2. These fuckers won't stop at anything. They should be in jail. recommended
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:49 PM
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3. Well, Hitler did it, Mussolini did it, Hirohito already had it,
Sure George - go on, take over the country - kick out Congress - set up a true military-backed dictatorship. Why not?

I wonder if anyone would notice - I mean, ANS isn't in the ground yet. She could be the second "Twin Towers"!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:49 PM
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4. Impeach Bush and Cheney, and Bush's pResidency Will Be Over
Edited on Sat Feb-17-07 08:50 PM by AndyTiedye
58 percent “wish the Bush presidency were simply over


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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:51 PM
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5. Does he have to literally spit in the eye of Congress to get impeached?
Wake up, Dems! A burning bag of dog shit has been set on the front porch of each and every one of you, and the perpetrator didn't even run away and hide. He's standing on the lawn, thumbing his nose at you all.

GET SPINES!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:33 PM
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12. How can the Dems not 'get it', is my question.
It's getting beyond the ridiculous if it wasn't there already.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:57 PM
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14. Yep. It's absurd, to say the least.
It pains me to say it but I have to wonder how different some our Democratic representatives are from the Republics. Are they timid and concerned only about re-election? Do they become terminally tin-eared, the second they step inside the beltway? Is it all about lobbyists and corporate supporters? What is it? :(
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 06:39 PM
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60. You really do have to wonder what's wrong with them!
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:51 PM
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6. Someone better put bushco in check before HE sells off or gives away.........
Edited on Sat Feb-17-07 09:07 PM by Double T
the rest of our country. Example: One proposal that fiscal conservatives (aka robber barons and criminals) are pushing is to halve all capital-gains taxes, as a way to encourage FOREIGN investment and FOREIGN SLAVE WAGE job creation.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 08:59 PM
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7. Fascism knows no bounds
The whole lot of them should be tried for war crimes anyway.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:00 PM
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8. * don't need no stinkin' Congress
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:10 PM
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9. Certainly NOT when you're the self appointed supreme dictator.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:13 PM
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10. In a way, this is a good thing
If Bush has decided that he will use the Executive Order route to get pass the Congress, then the next President that takes office on January 20, 2009 can just undo what Bush has done. They can issue their own Executive Order undoing Bush's damage.

(Remember, Bush undid a lot of the GOOD things Clinton did, by issuing his own Executive Orders the day he took office.)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:16 PM
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11. Can we afford to wait til 09?
:scared: He flat out scares me.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 09:35 PM
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13. The whole administration flat out scares me too. I wonder
if we will have an '08 election!!!
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:11 PM
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21. i'd say it is even money - at best
they may not have planned to finalize the coup this fast, but the stumbles in Iraq and the 2006 election may force their hand. They'll have to go ahead and make their move, whereas they may have not originally planned to declare their full blown takeover for several more years. With any luck, that will flush them out before they are fully ready, and a counterinsurgency will still be possible.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 06:19 PM
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43. I've heard equally dire predictions about the '02 and '04 elections
Bush is more con artist than thug. They won't cancel elections. His history tells you more than his raw potential for mischief
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 07:39 PM
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46. bush is not capable
but he is also not calling the shots

the PNAC crowd is, and they are not ABOUT to go quietly into the night

They have been playing it carefully as long as they had a willing and gullible public and docile media.

I fully expect an emergency of catastrophic proportions and declaration of emergency, martial law, whatever it takes, when push comes to shove. they are NOT going away without arrest and jail. And Bill Kristol is still spouting forth to a willing and receptive audience.
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dos pelos Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 07:33 PM
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45. Economically,coups are bad for business.........
Edited on Sun Feb-18-07 07:34 PM by dos pelos
Want to see massive flight of foreign capital out of the US?Want to see NOBODY buy US Government bond offerings?Want to see NYC wither and blow away?Have a coup.Declare martial law.Have some real serious political instability.If you have that kind of instability here and want simultaneous economic vitality,you'd better have the rest of the world at war.Bush, Cheney,Rove may be stupid enough to grab at power.They would be checked by those whose financial interests would be trampled by such a move.It won't happen.Our great selling point as a country where business can be conducted is based on political stability and the rule of law.Property rights,at least those of business,are respected.Too much wealth is at risk for Bush to be allowed such a move.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 10:53 PM
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16. No we can't! I wish other DUers would get it!
They'd rather sit back and take the abuse until then.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:58 PM
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29. He could just issue executive orders establishing martial law,
suspending the courts and legislature, repealing all taxes on his buddies and jacking up earned income taxes EXCEPT for the wealthy, suspending elections, summarily executing all dissenters, and I SWEAR TO GOD the sheeple would go along with it and Congress wouldn't say "Boo!"

I don't put anything past this psychotic SOB. And I am already losing confidence in our "new majority's" willingness to stand up to him.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 10:09 PM
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15. Why is this war criminal still occupying OUR house?
The treasonous, rat bastard belongs in jail.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-17-07 11:16 PM
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17. "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.

(END VIDEO CLIP)
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:30 PM
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24. That statement in itself demonstrates his warped view of the world.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:38 PM
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35. **'s been "advised" to change the word, and use "decider" instead...
for a while, until they see where the chips may fall (polls). Now since monkey IS a lame-duck pRetzeldent forever, he won't care using the Real word again.

Different words, same criminal behavior. :grr:
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 01:02 AM
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18. So....
What else does he have to do before impeachment is on the table?
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 02:58 PM
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19. So what else is new?
This is just more of the same.
And even our new Congress doesn't seem to have any power to do anything about it.

Yawn. We live in an asshole's dictatorship. Accept it.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:05 PM
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20. I'm burned out. It's depressing when one looks beyond the tip of their nose...
Edited on Sun Feb-18-07 03:28 PM by wake.up.america
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:12 PM
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22. He hasn't even TRIED to get anything through the Dem Congress yet.
He's not even willing to TRY to craft something that might be palatable to the other 70% of the country.
Same old shit; it's always all or nothing with him. My way or the highway. Can't see any deviation from extremes. What a complete loser.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:22 PM
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23. Impeach the bastard
Really. Comtempt of Congress is an impeachable offence.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:33 PM
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25. Hmm, if they succeed that ought to add a decade or two to
how long the American electorate will refuse to allow Republicans to be in power again. Anyone disagree??
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:47 PM
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28. Do you not think that would already be the case? Indeed, that
they might, even now, be obliged to start an all together new, more principled party, since their legion of habitual talking points and would-be put downs have become the butt of widespread ridicule. People such as John Kerry have taken the trouble to actually analyse them, to see if they contained any sense, and just showed them up to be, at best, incredibly shallow, empty slogans. Indeed, more generally, he has pointed out that they are like weapons aimed at themselves. "Support the troops... like Halliburton and the Pentagon do...".

Otherwise, even fifty or sixty years sounds an improbably brief time-frame for any kind of recovery.

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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:10 PM
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31. I said ADD a decade or two...
I perhaps should have been more explicit. I think -- and in fact, it's been reported right here -- that the GOP is done for a while. How long? I think at least 20 years; you think, what 50 or 60?? My point is that IF BushCo succeeds in thwarting the will of Congress, it'll add 1 or 2 decades to whatever "out years" they've already accumulated for themselves. Sorry I wasn't clearer.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:19 PM
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32. My point was really that, imo, 20 years wouldn't begin to reflect the situation
for them, so that the threat of an additional decade or two on top, would be kind of inapplicable/meaningless.

But thanks. It's just my opinion.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:21 PM
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33. Ah, okay. Got it (now). nt
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 08:46 PM
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50. Last time it was an entire generation
The Republicons love of and guilt for the great depression gave such offense that they had to wait for nearly everyone alive at the time to die to weasel their way back in.
I think their party has earned oblivion this time.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 06:17 PM
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59. As Hunter S Thompson intimated, this is worse than anything in the
past. Nixon's administration was positively enlightened, in comparison!

But not only that. Who's to say they have ever got back into power without crucially significant fraud?
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 09:56 PM
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54. Republicans should be in PRISON.
Not free. They need to make it illegal to be Republicans in the US.

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malikstein Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:35 PM
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26. Would these be the same people
who were yelling "dictator" when Chavez asked the Venezuelan legislature for permission to issue decrees to streamline his nationalization program for a limited period of time?
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 12:09 AM
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62. It's only "dictator" when it's a leftie
When it's someone on the right doing the same or worse, they're a "decider" or just a marvellous president.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 03:36 PM
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27. and it is a Congressional RECESS time-----watch out.
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flying rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 08:34 PM
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49. Recess!
Yay! playtime for the king!
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:04 PM
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30. Is it impeachment time yet?
Silly me. I'd have thought it would've happened long ago.

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merci_me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:31 PM
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34. I suggest the brave decider strap on his codpiece
dust off his "mission accomplished" aviator costume, hop his friggin ass into his old Vietnam plane and bomb Iraq/Iran, whichever Cheney tells him is best.

It's up to him and his puppet master fly off into the wild blue yonder and get their first glimpse of being "heros"...........not to mention a LOT of "friendly fire".
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 04:55 PM
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36. the funniest part was....
"halve all capital-gains taxes, as a way to encourage investment and job creation."

hilarious.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 06:16 PM
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42. Actually such a tax cut would create some jobs
Thank of all those extra tellers the banks in Switzerland and the Bahamas will have to hire. Could be dozens!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 09:24 PM
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52. Don't forget jets - more jobs manufacturing new jets so the legal depts and
comptrollers for corporations, individuals, fund managers, et al can fly to foreign banks to set up offshore licenses and bank accounts. Offshore licenses to get around laws that apply to U.S. licensed businesses that require compliance to environmental rules - for one example.
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 05:02 PM
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37. Unfuckingbelievable
But the Democratic "heavy weights" (Clinton, Obama) will hem and haw, caring only for their political future rather than their constituents. Fucking pathetic.:thumbsdown:
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 05:05 PM
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38. "Increase his control of the executive branch" equals constitutional crisis
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 05:22 PM
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39. Can you say "dictatorship"??
I knew you could.
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 05:27 PM
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40. Paging Speaker Pelosi...put impeachment on the table...NOW!!
we cannot take this shit anymore!!
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 06:52 PM
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44. Bush wants impeachment
it will take him off the hook. It will make all his problems go away. He cannot solve the problems he has created. He cannot take anyone elses solution. Impeachment puts him as well as the rest of us out of his misery. Those in the Senate who support him, really do not. They merely extend his suffering in order to hold on to their own power.

I worked in a company where they hated me. I was surround by enemies. Stupidly, I did not quit. Three years in purgatory. And I could not afford to get out. They finally fired me. What a relief! When it was over I got a much better job (I doubt that Bush will, but there's a lot of idiots who will pay to listen to him speak).
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 06:14 PM
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41. "Pushing to halve all capital-gains taxes" vs. US Constitution Article 1 Sect 8
Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes...

Just for the amusement, I want to see Alberto "no authorization for habeas corpus" Gonzalez punch his way out this paper sack. Laying taxes is indisputably the duty of Congress. If the president tries to do this by fiat, he's in for the quickest judicial spanking since Roy Bean retired.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 07:57 PM
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47. Oh fuck it, just declare yourself king and get it over with...
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 08:30 PM
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48. Sen Reid MUST prepare to go "nuclear"
Sen Reid will be forced to go nuclear. It is the one and only tool he has left in the tool box.
Its a play right out of the GOP playbook... destructive? yes... But worth the cost in the long run.

http://www.cfif.org/htdocs/legislative_issues/federal_issues/hot_issues_in_congress/confirmation_watch/nuclear_option.htm
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 09:03 PM
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51. What's he gonna do? Sign an order that abandons Congress?
Or simply one that abandons the entire Constitution?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 09:28 PM
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53. It was only two decades ago that they got away with thumbing their
Edited on Sun Feb-18-07 09:29 PM by higher class
noses at Congress - Iran Contra - piece of cake for them. Got off easily. Most people only associate the guilty with a few minor names and subsequent pardons.

Congress - high up on their agenda.

They will end up proving to EVERYONE that we are now of the corporation, for, and by the corporation?
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-18-07 11:04 PM
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55. Way to defend democracy, shrub
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 01:28 AM
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56. You know what I want to know?
How bad does it have to get before Canada will grant me refugee status?
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 03:00 AM
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57. I guess escalation was the Bi-partisan answer? NOT....N/T
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 06:54 AM
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58. Boston Tea Party anyone? 1600 Penna Ave.!
Citizens should arise and remove these poseurs themselves -- Congress, do you see what you are dealing with? This is an outright violation of the Constitution and usurpment of power by the Executive Branch!!!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 07:50 PM
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61. Autocracy... is that what these people want?
Or some other government like it?
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 06:47 PM
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63. Apparently Bush forgot he swore to uphold the Constitution
this is such bullshit.
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