Gore rules out bid for US White House in 2008

[masmdu]

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/16/070216193307.67kfaghf.html

[Dr.Phool]

1. I guess I can't find anybody to support this time.

This will be the first election I've sat out since 1972.

[Bluebear]

2. Well, that is one less vote for the (D) ticket though :(

[Le Taz Hot]

4. May I suggest

that you go to the voting booth anyway? Just a reminder that there will be MANY offices up for grabs that need your vote. I didn't check to see what state you're in but in CA we usually have lots and lots of propositions on every ballot. If you can't bring yourself to vote for the pre-anointed Democratic candidate, (I know I can't) write in the Dem you think should be president. Gore is always an option.

[Clark2008]

6. What are you looking for in a candidate?

I agree that I find many faults in the top three "front runners." First, two of them are war-mongers and secondly, two of them (one of the war-mongers and a third) can't flip any red states (which is actually a priority to me. I want this county united again).

[flaminbats]

10. I wanted Russ Feingold to run!!!

does this mean I shouldn't vote in 2008?

voting makes jury duty worthwhile, and after being called for jury selection..I know this right is something I will never again take for granted! We have a year until the real election begins, so why throw in the towel now? At least wait, until you see one primary debate or have attended your local party or caucus meeting, before deciding. :thumbsup:

try visiting this website, and learn about some of the other Democrats who are currently running. http://www.politics1.com/p2008.htm

[wakeme2008]

3. bad link

:shrug:

[LiberalFighter]

5. Why is everyone posting that Gore has ruled out 2008

This posting has been going on for about 2 weeks now. Gore hasn't ruled out running in 2008 he states that he has no intention of running. That could change between now and convention time.

And when posting please don't just post the link without at least the lead paragraph.

[RestoreGore]

7. Well, here's the lead paragraph

Former US vice president Al Gore has ruled out a bid for the White House in the 2008 elections and will carry on his fight against global climate change.

"I have no intention to run for president," Gore said in an interview conducted in Los Angeles and broadcast Thursday by the BBC.

"I can't imagine in any circumstance to run for office again," said the former Democratic vice president under then-president Bill Clinton.

And perhaps people are posting because it is quoting his own words. Is it a lie? Depends I suppose on what you truly believe about Mr. Gore's character.

[cool user name]

12. Why is your handle "RestoreGore?"

Everything I read from you seems to indicate that you don't want him to run. Perhaps, you don't want to be let down?

:shrug:

[RestoreGore]

22. I WANT TO SAVE THIS PLANET

And I posted the paragraph as requested so what's the problem? And I also see Mr. Gore as a man to truly help save it by inspring US unencumbered by beltway BS. Why do you all REALLY want him back in that cesspool seeing what good he is doing out here? Don't dare to question my name just to justify your position here, justify your own. I already worked to "restore Gore" and it got NO response either from other supposed groups that "support" him nor this Congress. This political system is MORALLY BANKRUPT and it is BECAUSE I support HIM that I say what I say because this planet comes first, as he also sees. OF COURSE I would want him to serve in that capacity if politics wasn't so GD DIRTY, and did FOR YEARS crying many tears after 2000, so don't dare to presume who I am or what I have done. I can't understand after all of that how people can walk around as if NOTHING HAPPENED. These draft movements NEVER mention this system or doing anything of substance to change it, just focusing on themselves and I want no part of them. Been there, done that, saw what they are all about. I say, THANK GOD he isn't in politics anymore for he will surely get something done regarding this crisis which IS what takes precedence now. People should realize that before judging me and others here just because we won't jump on their bandwagon.

[LiberalFighter]

16. The first sentence is the writer's words

The two quotes still leave an opening for Gore under the right circumstance.

[KoKo]

8. Exactly....he's going to come in "late" so he doesn't have to "run"

a campaign. I have no "intentions or plans" means nothing.

[Hippo_Tron]

20. That may have worked 50 years ago but not today

Back when most of the delegates were chosen at the convention and only a few by primaries you could do that. If Gore comes in late he'll get swamped by all of the other candidates because they will have all of the money.

[FreeState]

38. If he runs now he opens himself up to problems

If Gore were to announce he was running or thinking of running what would happen to his upcoming concert/oscar appearance etc? Would television stations have to offer equal time? Would he have to count Live Earth concerts as political ads?

Thats why I think he is not running "yet".

[w4rma]

9. Those quotes don't look like they are anything new. (nt)

[Catchawave]

11. Questionable sources....

I've seen this story floating around on many leftyblogs, and tend not to believe them until I hear from Gore himself.....at least through a credible media source, like Jon Stewart :D

[Milo_Bloom]

13. Same Non-Denial, Denial... means he IS running.

Rather than issue a definitive denial as he did in 2002, Gore has been choosing his words carefully and using the EXACT SAME ONES over and over. No, "intention" of running for President, "can't see any circumstances under which".. both are carefully crafted to leave lots of wiggle room. He could always claim that he didn't forsee a Draft Gore movement with 1 million signatures.

It is further interesting to see how much his refusal to issue a denial is detracting from his climate change message... everyone keeps asking the same question, rather than the ones he wants to answer.

Recent inside "leaks" have made it clear he is waiting until September... This is an obvious attempt to slow the questions for now.

This is a done deal, it is just a matter of time.

[RestoreGore]

24. What is the source of the leaks?

Again, you are speculating without giving people facts. And in 2002 he didn't have a movie out that he needed people to support. But since you claim it is a "done deal" please elaborate or be considered as just blowing smoke here, because I'm tired of word games and want FACTS.

[Milo_Bloom]

25. It IS a done deal.

Facts:

FACT #1: The talk about him running is DETRACTING from his movie, since people are more interested in asking him about this than the movie or his other projects.

FACT #2: Unlike in 2002, Gore has NOT ISSUED A DENIAL. Has NOT ASKED FOR DRAFT GORE SITES TO BE REMOVED. Has NOT ASKED PEOPLE NOT TO DRAFT HIM.

FACT #3: Gore is not an idiot. Gore is smart enough to realize that his non-denial, denial is being taken as just that and that those financially supporting draft gore movements and putting their efforts into Draft Gore meetups, etc.. would be better served working for another candidate if he truly wasn't interested in running.

What is the offical Gore Response to the draft Gore movement and the claims that he plans on entering in September... '“he appreciates the sentiment from folks who are interested in this, but really, his efforts are focused on global warming.”" (http://www.observer.com/20070219/20070219_Steve_Kornacki_opinions_wiseguys.asp)

Either you assume Gore is a complete idiot and not capable of issue the same strong denial he did in 2002, to make sure that money and efforts were focused on running candidates

OR

You look at it realistically and realize that Gore is in fact laying the groundwork for a run.


There REALLY is only two ways to see this. Either you believe Gore is an idiot and incapable of saying what he really means and is further incapable of realizing the amount this talk detracts from his current message, or he has changed his language and actions for a specific reason.

He really isn't running and is incapable of saying it, just doesn't hold any water.

[RestoreGore]

28. I asked for the source of the leaks

And you give me the same precanned answer that you gave in another thread. Good bye.

[Milo_Bloom]

31. And you will get it again and again...

Until you wake up and smell reality.

[flaliberal]

14. I don't believe it

I understand before 04 the draftgore site was up, and he asked it be taken down, and it was.
Now, it's up and running strong. I still believe!

[BuelahWitch]

15. Not only that, but there are several successful "Draft Gore" Meetups going on

Like you said, he asked for people to stop the "draft" last time. We've received no discouragement from the VP as of yet.

[flaliberal]

18. My roommate's running a draft Al Gore meetup . . .

and we're both sporting Al Gore 2008 (Save the Planet) bumper stickers!

We still believe.

[RestoreGore]

19. He didn't ask draftgore 04 to stop...

they didn't fold until the day after he endorsed Dean. He also never told me to stop what I was doing in 2004 after that and he knew well what I was doing...he probably isn't saying anything because he knows drafts don't happen anymore and figures people can do what they want with their time. And of course, he'e pretty busy right now himself, or hadn't some noticed?

[Milo_Bloom]

27. So busy he can't change the words he uses...

LOL...

God the river of denial you are in is incredible.

First, Gore DID ASK FOR THE DRAFT GORE MOVEMENT TO BE STOPPED

" In 2002, Gore asked Malone to stop a draft effort he had begun; Malone did. Malone started up again and, so far, Gore hasn't waved him off. " (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/08/AR2007020801273.html)

Second, Gore is not so busy that he can't change the way a sentance is stated. "I am not running for president" is even quicker to say than "I have no intention of running for president". Or even quicker, "I do not wish to run".

One phone call from one of his people and the "draft Gore" movement stops... immediately, just as it did in 2002.

Guess they are waaaaaaaaaaaay too busy to make that call, eh?

Dude, wake up and smell the cat food.

[RestoreGore]

29. How do I know that isn't a lie?

I was a part of the last draft and recall no phone call to anyone. Matter of fact I recall Malone telling me in an e-mail HE stopped the effort AFTER Mr. Gore announced he was not running. And actually, Mr. Gore or his office is really not supposed to have anything to do with these movements or sites. Are you telling me he was and is? Some of you I believe will say ANYTHING to make people believe you. And I am not living in denial I am dealing with reality and do not think him a liar as you obviously do. Again, unless you can give me any FACTS regarding direct quotes from him or NAMES, good bye.

[Milo_Bloom]

32. Just keep telling the same lie...

So, according to you Malone was never contacted. I guess maybe someone should tell him about the Washington Post article or the dozens of articles that contain the same lie... a lie that for some reason the actual subjects of the Article, haven't denied... However, you, who is not directly related to either party, well, you can speak on their behalf and declare that it is a lie.

Yes, this is a river of denial you are swimming in.

As I said, just mark down your calendar... it IS a done deal.

[RestoreGore]

33. Good for you... Then you have a reason to live

I am not a liar BTW, nor do I believe everything I read. Of course, there is no quote from Mr. Gore himself stating he called anyone to ask any such thing... perhaps I will ask his office the next time I call there or write. But no mind, it would seem you are the one that is totally obsessed with speculation and who continues to evade the original question. And you know what, I have no reason to trust anything you say or care to respond to you here again because I on the other hand have a life beyond being this obsessive, and I am out here NOW helping to do what I can to help this Earth. You can continue to sit here and BS about something that is unsupported and be obsessed with this while the Earth melts around you. I expect no less from some of the groupies here.

[Milo_Bloom]

34. You claim it didn't happen, all evidence suggests otherwise

Thus, you are currently in the "lying" camp, and unless you PROVE the statement wrong, you stay there. Whether you wish to discuss it or not, everytime I catch you lying about this subject, I will correct it... you can respond, or you can not.

Since there is no "original question" to evade, that turns into just another strawman you are trying to create to wrap yourself in more denial.

Then, as those most steeped in denial do so well, you turn to claim some lofty goal and/or purpose your life serves beyond your obsession with your own denial. You are going to "help this Earth"

As for the "earth" thing, let us not forget. The "earth" is no danger. There is nothing you can do to help "the earth". "the earth" has been through many climate calamities in the past and several mass extinctions. "the earth" will be just fine with or without your help. "The earth" could survive a full nuclear exchange at the hieght of the cold war. Thinkin you are helping "the earth" is just another delusion.

[RestoreGore]

36. This is absolute BS

"As for the "earth" thing, let us not forget. The "earth" is no danger. There is nothing you can do to help "the earth". "the earth" has been through many climate calamities in the past and several mass extinctions. "the earth" will be just fine with or without your help. "The earth" could survive a full nuclear exchange at the hieght of the cold war. Thinkin you are helping "the earth" is just another delusion."

I'm sure Mr. Gore would be interested in knowing what some who claim to support him here really think of his work on this, because by stating this you are in essence telling him he is delusional about all of this. And unless you once again can post the source for the socalled "leaks" you mentioned first, consider yourself discredited here with me. NO speculation in my view is to be believed, especially when spawned by those who think they would have something to gain from it.

[Milo_Bloom]

37. No, Gore is not that deluded

Gore would never try to claim he is saving "the earth". He is intelligent enough to focus on the real problems, the people, the food supply, our way of life. He understands that there is a huge difference between dealing with a serious problem and "saving the earth". The latter language is why this problem took as long as it did to gain the real public attention it deserves, much like your claim that I didn't give you the source, it is intellectually dishonest and people can sniff it out. (I gave you links to all the articles and all you can say in response is that the Washington Post is lying, whereas you know the unspoken truth).

"Save the earth" is a silly statement that suggests the planet is some type of danger... one needs only look at its history to see that the planet can recover from far worse calamities than us. 1 Well placed asteroid will wipe us all out and change the texture so that it probably won't support life forms like us for a while... but, as it has done in the past, the earth will be fine.

We little humans are not capable of saving or harming "the earth". We can change the earth in such a way that it won't support life for us, but, much like it has done in the past, the earth would recover after the mass extinction and some new form of life would take our place.

THAT is what Gore's work is all about. He is not saving the earth or even making such a ludicrous claim. He is bringing to light a real problem we need to face if WE are going to survive and prosper on this planet. If, God forbid, he ever made such a deluded statement, it would be played over and over again right along side with the lie about him claiming he invented the internet.

So, if you don't wish to discuss it, or have your delusions challenged, click the ignore button, that is what it is there for.

[RestoreGore]

39. Same to you

Nice try backtracking, but no dice. He has already claimed this as "his mission." And in order to save this planet for future generations, which you know full well was what I meant but continue with your semantics BS because you don't like me, WE will need to do the groundwork. You should read more of his words that actually have to do with the climate crisis instead of spreading false rumors. And you can keep responding to me here as much as you like if you desire to keep sending this back to the top.

[Milo_Bloom]

40. More lies?

First you lie about whether Gore contacted Malone, now you lie about me supposedly "backtracking", when it is you who is trying to change what you have said.

I have read his words, seen his movie and even sat in a room with him as the subject was being discussed and luckily, Gore was never deluded enough to try and couch this in terms of "saving the earth" or "saving the planet", he has always made it clear it is about human survival, which is a huge, not semantic, difference.

And, yes, I would love to keep sending this back to the top, because it is important that people realize Gore IS running, but will not be making the announcement until September, as the links I supplied to you already stated.

Keep on swimming in that river.

[RestoreGore]

42. The links you provided do not quote him

Therefore, until he says anything, you are not credible to me. And I don't care where you sat because no matter who you are, unsubstantiated speculation without fact is simply that. And I never said he never called Malone, I said I don't recall a phone call being mentioned as part of that effort, and I also stated I don't believe everythting I read. My prerogative which you will simply have to deal with. Methinks you protest too much regarding my opinion which leads me to believe you are trying just too hard to sell your own. And I will surely make a point of asking his office about it and expressing my views about it all. It is obvious you aren't going to provide any proof for your claims.

[Milo_Bloom]

44. More Lies?

NOW: "And I never said he never called Malone,"


THEN:
"RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-18-07 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. He didn't ask draftgore 04 to stop...
"

Can you at least be consistent within the same thread or are you going to try and play semantics again and claim that you didn't mean what you just said or what you said earlier isn't using the identical words.

The proof is in the links you have received. If his offices or Malone wishes to dispute the facts, I would love to hear it, however, the silence is deafening.

It IS a done deal!

[FrenchieCat]

17. Learning more and more about how things work.......

I don't blame Al Gore a bit for not wanting to run.

Politics is a bankrupt business.

[RestoreGore]

23. Agreed. It sure is n/t

[Stoic]

21. He still hasn't made a Sherman statement.

You know, "if selected, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve..." I've seen an analysis that he could wait until Sept. to make a decision and still have enough time to mount a credible candidacy.

Until then, I will still hope.

[enough already]

26. Very, very disappointing n/t

[Guaranteed]

30. Pure garbage.

Pretty sick of seeing this.

[lojasmo]

35. Title is crap

This is nothing new, and he did not RULE OUT anything.

[many a good man]

41. Copyright 2005

Copyright AFP 2005, AFP stories and photos shall not be published, broadcast, rewritten for broadcast or publication or redistributed directly or indirectly in any medium

Read the fine print, dammit.

[Bombtrack]

43. And then there were 2 (in my mind anyway)

All the more luck to Mr. Clark and Mr. Obama.