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Clark Speech Thread...Clark supporters, get ready... |
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What time do you think he'll be on? I have to be at "work" by four.
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4. In 5 to 10 minutes...It's "coming up" according to CNN anchor. |
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:16 PM
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2. Pundits leading up to the speech by supposing that he will be the |
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VP candidate OR he may run for Arkansas senator in the next election.
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:21 PM
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18. he would make a great Senator, VP, or |
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Secretary of State.
One thing is for sure, Wes Clark has made the Democratic party stronger. No longer can the other party pretend to have a monopoly on defense and foreign policy!
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:22 PM
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21. Both Arkansas Senators are Dems (n/t) |
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What about running for guv?
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The current Arkansas Repub Governor is due to be taken out, IMHO. Heck, we almost did it in 2002.
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:26 PM
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27. Yes, I was told to expect a surprise of sorts |
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:16 PM
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3. They're still reporting he's dropping out |
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The fact that he's in Arkansas doesn't look good, but I'm still holding out a little hope.
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:18 PM
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7. I wish that he would come out and cause a big stir |
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They evidently have a copy of his speech or have talked to a staffer. Said that he will reflect on his accomplisments, such as bringing national security into the debate, during his speech.
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9. I will...I will try to transcribe it for you as he speaks |
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6. Surprise the Media by NOT dropping out and get all day coverage. eom |
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not any of the introductry speakers because the Vagina monolouges is more important.
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and I'm with you guys.. Grouphugs for everyone! :grouphug:
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12. I don't want him to drop out :( |
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13. At work and can't see it. |
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19. Just showed him live--seated behind he lectern... |
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Now CNN is discussing Vagina Monologues with Eve and Jane (Fonda) but will come back to him when he approaches the lectern.
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Heehee isn't vagina a funny word? :eyes: Arg, I just want it to be over with, whatever his decision is!!
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24. omfg, Hanoi Jane is on! |
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26. it just seems a little weird that CNN has Jane Fonda on their show |
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28. I bet they ask her about the Kerry pic that has been making the rounds |
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29. No, Cat Ballou is on... |
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She is a great contributor to the V-Day movement. I respect her for that.
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34. He looks like he's crying |
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38. If he breaks down, I'll lose it |
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39. He's not the only one. |
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40. Here's what he's saying... |
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Thanking supporters, giving props to Arkansas...
Thanks his footsoldiers, staff, those who believed in him before he was drafted. Everyone from students to congressmen. It was an honor and a call to duty...proved to him a general can do great things when he has great troops.
Says this has been a cause as much as a campaign.
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42. "Was" a great campaign N/T |
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43. More transcription... |
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Thanks Gert, says she is the general's general, and he wouldn't be here today if not for her. Thanking Wes and his wife for great campaigning. Praising him for knowing who he is, what he stands for, and he's not afraid to tell people.
Applauding Kerry, Edwards, Dean for being real democrats and patriots--our country is well served by them.
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" End Of Campaign, but not end of cause"
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45. More transcription...4 "no's" |
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Says when he got out of military, he knew he had to do something.
He had the four noes: No Money No Staff No Position Papers, and NO political experience, but had hope, a life time of leadership, and vision.
It's not the end of the cause. The real cause is a campaign for the future of America, our families, every american, and that cause will continue.
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:36 PM
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48. The US will rue this day |
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4 years from now, when we're still invading other countries, a couple trillion $ is debt, 9% unemployment, and * with a filibuster-proof Senate, and Jeb ready to step in...
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OK thats enough. I will be anxious to see the whole speech and also what he says in the coming days and weeks.
Thank You Wes for everything you have done.
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47. I am really sorry to see this man leave the race, after admittedly |
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50. I felt the same way. He's a decent man. Last night he said something about |
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He's definitely a good man.
But only one can win the nomination, and there will be tears for the rest.
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49. Talking about the American struggle--individuals deserve a strong party |
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to carry their hopes, committed to their lives, and there is no party more commited to them that the Democratic Party, "my party".
He is tearing up. What a man!
More:
I have nothing against the Republicans, but I am proud to be a democrat. (Said Republicans are there in the audience).
Bush has had three years to move us forward, but has set us bac. 3 million job losses, broken promises, exploding deficits, 44 mil americans without health insurance.
To him, most personal, we have our armed forces bogged down in the wrong war, in a war we didn't have to fight--he is tearing up...about to cry.
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51. Said Bush is responsible for a fatally flawed Foreign Policy... |
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62. thanks for the transcrips, jchild |
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I wish I could watch, but I have no TV at work.... thank you all for the updates.
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:38 PM
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53. They're interrupting him!!! |
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Even in leaving the race, they don't cut him any slack. Mediawhores
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67. They cut him off?!?!?! |
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I can't believe they cut him off!
Sounds like a moving and powerful speech. I am so sad to see him leave the race....
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57. that was a great speech, and I really wish he hadn't bowed out today |
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61. GODDAM IT! CNN pulled his speech as soon as he began criticizing |
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Bush's foreign policy...right on the heels of Bush's nucular (sic) speech.
This media manipulation is pathetic. The meat of his speech was coming up, and they pulled away. He never even said that he had decided to end his run...they pulled before that!
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81. Far be it from me to be "unfair" to CNN |
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I was transcribing, and missed that little detail, but I continue to assert that he did not discuss WHY he quit. He was leading up to that...he had only begun to discuss WHY he entered the race.
But thank you for correcting me on my "unfair" criticism of CNN.
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83. they spent 15 minutes discussing the vagina monologues as a movement |
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Is it so much to ask for a little fuckin' closure! I wanted to see/hear the whole speech.....I hate the media more than I hate Bush. They are the true enemy.
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They couldn't give a 4-star General a chance to explain that disagreeing with Shrub doesn't mean you're weak on defense. Screw CNN. At least Fox is somewhat honest about being a fraud.
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I can't believe they cut away so the nation could watch Woodruff shuffle papers.
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79. No, it's not. They will probably run in later eom |
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84. Not on CSPAN or CSPAN2 n/t |
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they cut him off, and no one else is covering.
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Surely C-Span will have it later, and show the entire speech?
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85. They always do, check later tonight n/t |
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73. I started to cry and then |
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Can't even let us hear the man bow out without disrespecting him!
I FUCKING HATE YOU ALL!!!
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71. CNN with the final kick in the teeth |
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76. CNN can suck it FOREVER! |
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What really happened to Ted Turner? Did a neocon company buy the the station?
I hate CNN for what they did to Wes Clark. That Judy Woodruff is a **
How I wish Wes was still in the race. He is so classy.
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CNN carries it for 10 minutes, MSNBC and Faux both run stories on Gay marriage instead.
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They couldn't cover him when he was in the race, and the SOBs can't even let him leave it with any coverage.
I can't deal with CNN anymore. I hate Faux TV, but even THEY are at least upfront about where they stand.
Pax to you, General. It was a hell of a run.
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Will it ever end? They just showed Clark misspeaking on Friday. G-d I hate CNN. Turning off now . . .
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86. Turning it off FOREVER! |
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Rat bastards may they rot in hell for they're belittling and bedamning of a great man.
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88. it just makes me sick.................. |
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it shouldn't knowing the ways of our corporate media but it still does.......General Clark deserved alot better treatment...........
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87. Is anyone monitoring CSPAN? |
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I hope they rebroadcast his whole speech. I can't handle hearing it unfinished...
It's too much like his campaign (sigh)
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92. yeah i started flippin channels wildly |
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no other coverage. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....
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Thank God for Brian Lamb & C-Span.
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89. They (the media) have the power and they don't want you to forget it |
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(appologies to the Dean folk for borrowing their 'power' catch phrase)
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:hi:
And also, remember that if you get caught portraying the media for what they are, they will retaliate. Witness what happened to Dean.
I suspect this happened to Clark as well; I only just this morning found out that he wanted to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.
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Wed Feb-11-04 03:48 PM
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91. Let's all email CSpan and ask them nicely to show tonight |
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and looked up my e-block. It said that "we are no longer in the race and...." it is no longer running :cry: I hope they do not shut down the site right away. :cry: Clark is officially getting on the ballot in Indiana today. I guess I knew he was bowing out because LR asked us to turn the petitions in before 3:00. I was just hoping they were saying that because Clark could change his mind. or whatever. I hope they all kiss his *.
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Wed Feb-11-04 04:07 PM
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99. Alert to All-Speech will be on Cspan after house coverage |
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Just got off phone to CSPAN. Want to make sure you all know.
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