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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:30 AM
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Tweety asks Richardson which Dems Hillary thinks don't believe there's a terrorist threat out there
Until now, only the blogs and South Carolina newspapers have covered this--the main stream media, other than Tweety, have for some reason, ignored Hillary's accusations against her fellow nominees. You have to ask yourself why this is not being widely coverred--or worse, being swept under the rug.

The transcript will be available later today.

Some of the exchange:

Tweety to Richardson: Who is she talking about--you, Obama, Kucinich? I don't know who she's saying in the Democratic party doesn't believe there is a terrorist threat in our country? Is she with Lieberman or the Democratic party on the issue of the war?

Richardson: I don't know who she is talking about. She should be very careful and we ought to remain positive...

The exchange begins at 3:30 into the tape and last about a minute and a half...

http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/msnbc/fv.htm??f=00&g=f652b14f-3db7-44c2-a956-be12ab50c281&p=source_hardball&t=c1150&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/&fg=

This is what Hillary Clintons said last week in a townhall forum in Columbia, South Carolina:

“To underscore a point, some people may be running who tell you we don’t face a real threat from terrorism,” she said. “I’m not one of them. We have serious enemies who want to do us serious harm.”

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/16737228.htm


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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:50 AM
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1. Someone needs to ask Hillary
who she was talking about. If anything else it's a nice sound byte her friendly supporter, Rupert Murdoch, could use on his Faux News channels if another becomes our nominee.

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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:57 AM
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2. iS hILLARY
dICK cHENEY WITH A WIG? i THINK SO....
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 05:59 PM
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13. "diCK cHENEY with a wig!" The image is frightening!
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 09:17 AM
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3. ahh...the old "some people" canard
She has learned from the masters of smear well. I guess the idea is "if you can't beat them, copy them"
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 09:30 AM
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4. It is just downright sad ...
I think the Hill of 15 years ago was great ... But, the YEARS of taking a butt whipping from the machine have SO caloused her ... A woman on C-Span nailed the repuke Vermont Governor and health care and brought up how Hill made a valient effort at getting it done in the early 90s, only to get hammered by the Insurance Industry ... Saddened me to know that this go around, the insurance industry is one of her biggest funders ...
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 10:00 AM
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7. The thing is, who the heck is giving her this kind of advice?
She has to know that conducting straw man attacks is exactly the same kind of crap that was flung against her and Bill time and time again. It is really depressing to see the Democratic candidates falling for the same tactics.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 10:50 AM
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8. A very good question you ask, n2doc.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 12:11 PM
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9. I wish Hillary WAS running the campaign Bill did in 92, instead of the one Bush did in 2002-2004
Obama is running more like Bill Clinton did in 1992.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 12:58 PM
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10. Her admonishment to fellow Democrats sounds like Lieberman, as well.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:26 PM
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11. In 92 Bill showed confidence in his own positions and ability to perform. Bush never
showed confidence in his ability to discuss his positions or in his debate performances - he needed his toughest opponents targeted and taken out, his confidence being only in his machine that could assure he was the inevitable nominee in 2000.

And then after 9-11 Bush worked to paint every Democrat who opposed him publically as weak on terrorism in the same way Hillary is doing now.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:31 PM
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12. Excellent analysis, blm. Thanks for fleshing out your earlier post.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 09:30 AM
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5. I like Richardson
and am glad is trying to keep the primaries positive. I hope it can last. There is nothing wrong with criticism, but lets save the mud for the Repubs.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 09:36 AM
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6. Its the AIPAC talking point , you know, $
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:27 PM
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14. Transcipt, as promised.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17365816/

MATTHEWS: You know, I am trying to figure what out you are running on as a platform, Governor, and how the Democrats—I saw Hillary the other day—Hillary Clinton took a shot at other Democrats by saying that there are some people that do not believe there is a terrorist threat out there. Who is she talking about? Is she talking about you? Is she talking about Obama? About Kucinich? Who is she saying in the Democratic Party does not believe that terrorism is a threat to our country?

RICHARDSON: Well, I do not know who she is talking about. But I want to tell you.

MATTHEWS: Well, don’t you take umbrage at the fact that she is broad-brushing other Democrats, perhaps, to her left? I mean, it is easy to get to her left on the war in Iraq. She takes a somewhat—well, it is hard--ambivalent position. It is very hard to tell whether she is with Lieberman or she is with the Democratic Party on the issue of the war. Who does she mean when she says that?

RICHARDSON: Well, she should be very careful. I don’t know who she means. But what is important is that we all stay positive because what we do not want is to be Democrats pictured as being soft on terrorism, on national security, on fighting al Qaeda.

So I believe that I have the strongest credentials in national security. You know, maybe she has voted on these issues, I have been there. I have been to Pakistan. I have talked to the Taliban. President Clinton sent me to try to get Osama bin Laden extradited.

I brought a little bit of a peace treaty between the Northern Alliance and the Taliban. It barely lasted. It lasted maybe a few weeks. So I believe it is important we stay positive, especially on issues of national security. And we stay as bipartisan as we can.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 07:43 PM
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15. He still comes off as working towards VP spot. He has good cause to call out Hill on this but won't.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:13 PM
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16. I don't think he has to be confrontational with the others just to be taken seriously
He's in this campaign to win. If he wanted the VP spot, he likely could have had it in '04. It's a stretch to suppose that he's merely staging this campaign for a chance to be some unknown nominee's VP choice.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:22 PM
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18. I can appreciate that, but also know how close he is to Bill.
What Hillary said was completely inappropriate and he could have emphasized that while still maintaining civility and decency. Of course he shouldn't try to take her to the mat over it, but she was due a firm brushback on that statement.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:32 PM
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20. didn't he move away from that closeness in '04 when he backed Kerry?
just sayin', my Kerry lovin' - Clinton fightin' friend . . .
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:35 PM
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21. For appearances they ALL backed Kerry.....didn't they?
When it came to countering the daily appearances of bigname GOPs like Giuliani, McCain and Dole on all the network shows, it was mostly left to two less known Democrats in 2004 - Cleland and Clark.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:48 PM
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22. I'll wager you that I can find more Richardson defenses than other Democratic officeholders
and, his were deep and meaningful, even after turning down the VP spot. He even chaired the national convention which nominated Kerry.

(I've found a ton of water that he carried for Kerry out West, perhaps seeking another cabinet spot)



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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 09:38 AM
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23. I know he showed up to a point - but his actions re voting machines in NM spoke
a whole different story.

There is showing up and doing A job, and there is showing up and pounding away - that is something that Bush had from bignames in spades and Kerry had sparingly.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:19 PM
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17. He turned the question effectively, I thought nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:23 PM
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19. As I said above - she earned a firm brushback on that one.
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