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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:01 AM
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What I find most disturbing about this whole mess with Gonzo is
that this is the incident that finally caught the attention of the media and the American public...

A war waged on a shaky premise, no problem...

A fucked up Hurricane response, Things happen...

A shrinking Middle Class, it's their own fault...

A morally bankrupt financial system, that's capitalism baby...

Government corruption that hasn't been matched since the roaring twenties, business as usual....

A couple of attorneys get fired for political reasons, Katie bar the door, the Constitution has been breached...

The good news, it may finally be over for the Bush clan...
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:04 AM
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1. The Iraq War and New Orleans have/had the attention of the media. NT
NT
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:07 AM
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3. Yea, but it didn't stick like this....
There certainly was criminal behavior in both cases and yet the media seemed to lack the nerve for investigation...

I guess the average American as well as the mainstream media need a smoking gun in order to even consider supporting an investigation...
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:08 AM
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5. Not really.
The Iraq war coverage by the media has been, to put it mildly, 'sanitized'. The media coverage of Katrina was startling in its mendacious focus on bullshit 'bad looter' stories while ignoring the complete criminal negligence of the federal response, until that negligence could no longer be ignored because of the determined efforts by the many dead people littering the streets to not let the story die. And then... Katrina who?
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:05 AM
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2. Don't mess with lawyers
is the moral of this story.

I think the pet food poisonings will also have people up in arms about the way food safety and other consumer protections have been degraded or destroyed since 2001.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:07 AM
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4. Free range lawyers....
Maybe that's the answer...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:12 AM
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6. Nixon went down when he fired lawyers.
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:16 AM
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7. The difference is the Democratic Congress
All those other things happened when Republicans were in power. If they were still in charge, this scandal too would have been ignored.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:18 AM
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9. That still doesn't excuse the media for not at least calling for
an investgation or two...
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:19 AM
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10. But, but, I thought the Dems weren't doing anything!
(Kidding...;))
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 11:01 AM
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12. F. James Sensenbrenner is no John Conyers
when it comes to serving as chair of the House Judiciary Committee.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:16 AM
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8. the incidents you mention
happened before the Dems took the House and the Senate. Safe to say, those issues were effectively buried by the party that had power then.

I think what you might be seeing in the Media is a response to the white hot spotlight the Dems are shining on the issue thus FORCING the media to focus on it. If the Repugs were still banging the gavels, the US Attorney issue would have been another non-story. It's the concerted efforts of Leahy, Reid, etc. and so on that are now driving these issues and, in effect, the news coverage. And they've only just begun! Remember, they took their Oaths and took power in January and it's not even past March yet!!!!!!!
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:26 AM
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11. I think it catches people's attention because it attacks the notion of equal justice.
Most people thought our judicial system was fair. At least they use to.

Now they see clear and obvious evidence that there is no such thing as equal justice for all in America. The dancing Supremes picking our pResident wasn't enough. I mean how many average Joe's ever need to go before the dancing supremes? Not many, so it didn't bother them.

But at the state level and trickling all over the local level, there is unadulterated evidence that repukes and the rich get more justice than the rest of us average Joe's. People have suspected this for a long time, but this scandal slaps them in the face with it. That means if their neighbor builds his fence on their property, when they try to obtain justice for this illegal incursion, it will depend on what party they belong to and not on the merits of the case. This affects the average Joe in his daily life.

I'll bet you that most people didn't even know that the president through the AG had the authority to fire all the federal state prosecutors. I'll bet they didn't even know that most presidents do it routinely at the beginning of their terms. If you ask me, even that smacks of a rigged system designed to favor the ruling party.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:53 PM
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16. You might be on to something there....
I think people expect their elected leaders to be a little on the shady side and quite frankly, after being involved with big city party politics on the inside looking out for over eight years, I can tell you that the people are not wrong...

It's the way things are...

But when you challenge the very foundation of our culture, hell, it goes all the way back to the Magna Carta, then the whole bloody mess could fall apart...

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IndyBob Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 11:29 AM
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13. The Media is a Lagging Indicator
I'm convinced the idea that the press is a "noble fourth estate", exposing lies and injustice, is a steaming load of bull. They report what the people want to hear, maximizing profits is the only goal.

Its taken six years of Shrub's corrupt incompetence, but the average Joe is catching on. That's why there are Democratic majorities in both Houses, and why the media is now pushing these stories.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 11:51 AM
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14. Don't forget, they let America get attacked & don't care about they guy who did it.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 12:04 PM
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15. I've been wondering just which story would finally
get some traction with the American public!

And I do believe that this one is sticking because of the Dem majorities in the Congress.

People are finally overloaded with disgust at the bushie antics, and that is helping as well.

But my god, it's like turning the Titanic...

It has taken such a long time, and so many scandals, to get the public's attention...

We are way overdue for this intense reaction.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:54 PM
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17. It's about time there was an intense reaction..
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:25 PM
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18. I want to know what Gonzalez might be holding over *....
Edited on Sat Mar-24-07 07:28 PM by windbreeze
you would think * would have cut him loose by now...because the longer this goes on...the worse it seems to get...or what might they be planning, on the sneak, in order to get out of it?...also makes me wonder if * feels he has this country so under control, that there is nothing we can do to any of them...??
wb..
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