If Kucinich were to win the nominaton I'd vote against him?

[Flabbergasted]

[PresidentObama]

1. If he were the nominee, he'd have my vote.

Especially with his anti-war stance.

[Rusty MacHenry]

2. I wouldn't like him as our nominee

But I would bring a huge clothespin and attach it to my nose to vote for him because there is absolutely no appealing Republicans running and all the ones running would bring this country to facsism

[mr715]

3. Not a chance

I would never support someone who is so incapable of working in government, so unwilling to embrace the reality of the political process, and someone who follows feelings and irrational new-age spirituality in the face of evidence.

I cannot support someone who was ever anti-choice, particularly one who only changed his stance to garner greater support in 2004.

He has a horrible record as an executive and essentially no record as a Congressman. He talks and talks and talks and both says nothing and more importantly does nothing.

But hey, he comes from the power of starlight!


M

[Rusty MacHenry]

7. Hold on

When was Dennis ever pro-life, he dosen't strike me as that type of guy.

[jobycom]

11. Until he began running for president in 2004.

His voting record was pro-life, and he refused to answer questions during his early campaign, claiming he didn't think it would be that big an issue. After he realized it would be a big issue, he declared that he had spoken with several pro-choice leaders who convinced him to alter his opinion.

[Freddie Stubbs]

25. He was pro-life before he ran for President in 2004

http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=341479&Category=23

[jobycom]

8. So you'd vote Republican? Or stay home? Or go third party?

Not arguing with your vote, but those are the four options.

We both know he won't win the nomination, so it's hypothetical, at best.

(You've hit on every issue I have with Kucinich, by the way, though I don't consider that his entire picture.)

[mr715]

12. If he was the nominee

I'd prolly stay home.

I refuse to vote for "saints" for political office.

A Kucinich victory would DESTROY the democratic party for 30 years. We've finally shed the label of irrational compassion new age mystics for the good of our party.

Aside from the fact that he is totally disingenuous on EVERY stance he takes, he maintains support through a cult following - a cult of "Our Great Savior, DENNIS", and has no record of success in any office he's held.



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[GreenArrow]

31. are you talking about Kucinich

or John Edwards?

[Common Sense Party]

41. Kucinich is our Duncan Hunter.

The FReeps are masturbating about some unknown extremist congressman from San Diego because he is the only "pure" conservative in the running. But he has a snowball's chance in hell of getting the Repuke nomination.

Kucinich is the DU version of that. He's the most progressive, the furthest left of all the candidates, and he's idealogically "pure," but he's never going to win the Democratic nomination.

[iamjoy]

13. Guess You Don't Like Al Gore Either

He was Pro-Life in the 1980's

Lot of other prominent Democrats used to be Pro-Life. Admittedly, their change ("Road to Damascus" moment if you want to be kind, flip-flop otherwise) was not quite so conveniently timed as Kucinich's.

[mr715]

14. Didnt know that

I guess Al Gore is done for me too.


Sigh

[Norquist Nemesis]

34. Don't think you'll have to worry about it though

I know he has a lot of strong supporters her, but it's JMHO that he doesn't have a chance. What he CAN do is bring issues to light and be a gauge on certain issues. Sort of like Sharpton was in 2004.

Again, I'm not bashing him or his supporters. Just calling it as I see it on his chances.

[jobycom]

4. I'd vote for Squiggy the Wonder Rat if he won the nomination. Surely DK is better than Squiggy.

Who's saying otherwise?

I only have a couple of beefs with Kucinich, and love him to death on many issues. On some issues his understanding and, to steal a phrase, moral clarity are beyond any other candidate's. It would be an easy vote, though there are others I prefer in the primaries. So far.

[Czolgosz]

5. Nonsense! Dennis is a great guy and if he won the nomination it would be a great day for America and

the world.

If I can promise to hold me nose and vote for Hillary or Richardson or Biden or whichever DLCer the cat may drag in if Edwards or Obama can't win the primary, surely you can agree to vote for Dennis if he gets the nomination.

[SaveElmer]

I will never vote against the Democratic nominee...

No matter who it is...unless that candidate has actively campaigned for or advocated the election of a non Democrat...

ala Zell Miller, or William Donald Schaeffer...or Joe Lieberman

[Cleita]

6. Why would anyone vote against him?

Of all the candidates, he is the one who would restore our country to honor and lead us to the future we should have.

[Rusty MacHenry]

9. Because first off he's not electable

He critizes his party on a regulr basis and he dosen't work with the reality of government, he lives in a bubble when it comes to politics.

[Cleita]

15. Actually, he would be electable in a popular election.

It's our system though that forces the candidate on us that the party has preselected. I mean really, do you really think Kerry would have won a popular vote, if the primary was on one day, winner take all? We all know that Hillary will be the candidate.

If this is the case, Ralph Nader has promised to run. I think Dennis would be wise to run on an independent or Green ticket because he would be the spoiler effect on Nader and you never know, he may even become the winner.

[mr715]

17. ...what?

Okay. 30% are gonna vote, no matter what, for the GOP.

30% are gonna vote, no matter what for the Democrats.

40% are gonna break either way. There is no WAY that a 3rd or 4th party can win.

If Nader AND Kucinich run, they take 2% on the same ticket. If they run seperately, they take under 1% each.

Guys - listen... Kucinich isnt popular even in his OWN state!

[Rusty MacHenry]

21. I disagree with what you said about DK

He dis get re-elected with 66% of the votes and if he was so unpopular why didn't his district replace him with Mike Dovilla, the Rethug that ran againist DK?

[mr715]

22. District is not state

Did he not finish #4 in Ohio?

*I* could win in my district. But Im not popular in my state.

If Mr. Kucinich is so popular, why is he not running for the Senate?


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[Rusty MacHenry]

23. Okay I see

I thought when you say state that that was also pretaining to his district as well, never mind.

I wouldn't want him running for the Senate anyways cause I like him just where he is, in the House. If I would pick any Democrat from the Democratic Congressional delegation to run for the Senate it would by Tim Ryan of the 18th District. I like him, he's goy alot of spark and determination kinda like what Sherrod Brown has, he's definately going to be a rising star within the ranks of the Democratic leadership in Congress.

[wyldwolf]

35. no, he would not

I mean really, do you really think Kerry would have won a popular vote, if the primary was on one day, winner take all?

People just made their opinions known with the money they contributed. How much did DK raise?

[Cleita]

38. Actually, I was for Dean in the last election and there was no

question that he raised a lot of money, although, I would have been for Dennis if there had been no Dean like I am now, but we still got Kerry. Go figure. So I believe Dennis would pick up most of the Dean supporters, however, we will get Hillary. Bank on it.

[El Supremo]

10. Sure I would...

but someone else would have to open "The Football".

[ripple]

16. Of course not

I'll support the dem that gets the nod. Period.

The alternative is unthinkable.

Psst...he won't get it, though. :P

[Cascadian]

18. What is really sad is that this country is so damn image driven.

If Dennis Kucinich looked like George Clooney he would be leading the pack right now. It ticks me off that it's all about image and how much money you have in your wallet to run for President. I am quite disgusted actually.

BTW....Elizabeth Kucinich would make a great First Lady. Have you seen her? Good going, Dennis!


John

[GreenArrow]

32. "if DK looked like George Clooney he'd be leading the pack"

I don't believe he would. It's not just his appearance and demeanor that work against him, it's the ideas he actually represents. He might stand a better chance if he had the kind of money that Ross Perot was able to bring to the table and was able to run as an Independent. Perot was largely able to get as far as he did because he was able to finance his own campaign out of his pocket. Given that DK has neither slick Hollywood style looks nor his own money to run on, and his message is anathema to the movers and shakers of this great land, he has NO chance of winning. His ideas are good, and he's far ahead of the pack on that count; unfortunately, that's not really the focal point of elections. A reappraisal of what our national values are is called for, but instead, we can look forward to more or less overt status-quo political flacks like Hillary or Obama, or a covertly genial fraud like Edwards bearing up the political standard.

"Yoiks, and Away"!

[mtnsnake]

19. What is this? "Figure out a way to have Dennis win a poll" night?

Anyway, what Democrat in their right mind would vote against him if he were to win the nomination? I would hope that no Democrat turn their back on him. AFAIC, Kucinich represents the true ideals of our party as well as anyone, maybe even more, but he just can't get the support he needs for some reason or other.

[GreenArrow]

33. "what Democrat in their right mind would vote against him"

Maybe thhe same sorts of Democrats who voted against George McGovern?

[rosesaylavee]

20. Voting for the Dem Nominee is VERY IMPORTANT for the survival of this country

And I don't care who that is. If its my Aunt Tilly's weird brother Ted - he's got my vote. To stay home, to not vote, to vote publican is not an ethical option, in my less than humble opinion.

The Supreme Court is on the bubble. We need to have the next justice be a centrist or the rule of law is over. The constitution has been in trouble since 12/12/2000.

The Environment is dying and without a change in course, we are all dying.

The EPA, the FDA, the FBI, the CIA, the GAO and other acronyms I can't think of right now - are all in danger of becoming thoroughly useless or overly powerful and therefore dangerous to the overall health of the country.

Nuclear war needs to be taken off the table. Chimperor's itchy finger is too close to the button right now.

DEMs need to win in 2008. Period. Whoever is the nominee has my vote AND my volunteer time as a campaigner.

Dennis is a good man with a lot of smarts and a big heart. He would be fine as a nominee. Much better than Tilly's Ted. :)

[lovuian]

24. I love him

Kucinich is the Dark Horse and I love that

[Sammy Pepys]

26. Couldn't tell you for sure....

I just don't give my vote to whoever happens to be the nominee. I give them the once over no matter who they are.

[MaineDem]

27. I think a discussion about voting against our nominee is wrong!

The premise of this thread is that Kucinich wins the nomination. By all DU rules, we support our nominee. This thread is wrong.

[zulchzulu]

28. Would I eat a Martian Turnip Frittatta for lunch today?

The chance of Kucinich being the Democratic nominee in 2008 are about the same as myself having a Martian Turnip Frittatta for lunch today... what a silly poll.

If he were the nominee, I would vote for him...but a whole lot of wacky stuff would have to happen for that to be the case.

[Forkboy]

29. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....Martian Turnip Frittatta.

[rinsd]

30. The Democrat who wins the nomination gets my vote...end of story (nt)

[AtomicKitten]

36. I will support the Democratic nominee whoever that may be. n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

37. If Kucinich got the nomination

I probably wouldn't be around to vote, because it would mean every other natural-born citizen over the age of 35 had died.

[bigwillq]

39. He would get my vote

:bounce:

[bamacrat]

40. He's the only one running with real ideas, and a plan for turning this country around.

"No Strings Attatched"

[Tellurian]

42. If the nominee ISN'T Kucinich.. which isn't a stretch..

I hope who ever the nominee is, they give him some kind of cabinet position...Sect of Peace, Sect of Stop Running, something..to keep him occupied and teach him how to be productive.