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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:06 PM
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Clinton Says Husband Would Be Ambassador
Errr, AP, Clinton was impeached by the House, not the Senate. Funny how a lil thing like that could escape you.:eyes:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8OL6GEO0&show_article=1&catnum=0

Clinton Says Husband Would Be Ambassador
Apr 21 03:37 PM US/Eastern
By MIKE GLOVER
Associated Press Writer

MARSHALLTOWN, Iowa (AP) - Hillary Rodham Clinton said Saturday that if she is elected president, she would make her husband a roaming ambassador to the world, using his skills to repair the nation's tattered image abroad.

"I can't think of a better cheerleader for America than Bill Clinton, can you?" the Democratic senator from New York asked a crowd jammed into a junior high school gymnasium. "He has said he would do anything I asked him to do. I would put him to work."

Clinton spoke at a town hall-style meeting Saturday where she took questions from about 200 people. When asked what role the former president would play in her administration, she left no doubt it would be an important one.

"I'm very lucky that my husband has been so experienced in all of these areas," said Clinton, who pointed to the diplomatic assignments her husband has carried out since leaving office, such as raising money for tsunami victims.

Although former president Clinton was impeached after an affair with a White House intern, he remains a very popular figure in much of the world and is considered an effective diplomat.

That's precisely what America needs in the wake of a war in Iraq that's left America isolated and hated throughout much of the world, Hillary Clinton said.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:08 PM
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1. All the news that's fit to print--from their perspective. Give the assholes HALF the story, yeah,
that's the ticket!!!

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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:13 PM
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2. I'd do the same thing if I were elected President
Bill is the man for the job.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:22 PM
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4. contrast with what we have NOW-KAREN HUGHES!
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:17 PM
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3. Senates don't impeach, they convict or acquit.
I'm looking at the AP content posted here and I'm wondering, where does the AP imply otherwise?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:31 PM
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6. The article suggests he was impeached, never mentioning he was
acquitted. That's not right imo.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:32 PM
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7. He WAS impeached. The House passed articles of impeachment.
That he was not removed from office is so well known in the historical record to the point that it'd be treating the readers as utter and complete morons to point out that Clinton served out his term.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:26 PM
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5. umm Where does AP say bill was impeached by the Senate?--


.Errr, AP, Clinton was impeached by the House, not the Senate. Funny how a lil thing like that could escape you. :eyes:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:35 PM
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9. Well, probably half the posters here somehow believe that impeaching Bush gets rid of him.
Sure, they may know that the House brings articles of impeachment, but they never think or consider past that. We know who the jury, the U.S. Senate, will be upfront and it can be reasonably assumed how they will vote. So very many do not give that any thought as they constantly scream Impeach! Impeach! Impeach! I want to see him convicted, not simply impeached, and that will take more investigations and hearings to even have a chance of getting the 17 or more Republican senators needed to vote to convict after impeachment.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 04:40 PM
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17. I think most of those who refer to "impeaching Bush" are referring
to the process of removing Bush & Cheney from office via the rules specified in the Constitution. I can be quite sure this is what most people would want here. Merely impeaching without convicting and removal would be unacceptable for us here.

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 04:57 PM
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18. Impeaching Clinton with no chance of convicting him was fine for the Republicans.
They at least have the ability to count and knew that there was no chance of Clinton being convicted in the Senate, but their point was to humiliate him with impeachment. I really believe that many here seem to think that "impeachment" means that Bush is removed from office. If they knew the process and thought it through as it stands at this time they would understand that is not going to happen without further investigations and hearings and honing the case against Bush.

Years ago in the area where I live there was a double homicide with a husband and wife being killed in their own home. The police caught the man they considered to be the suspect. There was a large public outcry to indict the man and to bring him to trial. The DA, being an elected official, gave in to public pressure and brought the man to trial instead of doing a thorough investigation. The man was found "not guilty" and walked. The police did not bother to look for anyone else because they knew they had the man. The rush to judgment let a guilty man go free. The lesson is that you do your investigations and have all of your ducks in a row before going to trial. As it stands right now, Bush would walk. That is the reality.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:34 PM
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8. Impeachment is the first of two stages in removing a public official. The Senate convicts.
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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:37 PM
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10. "The Senate convicts."
Or doesn't. As in Clinton's case.

Wat
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:38 PM
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11. HOLY SHIT!!! I Totally Called This!!!!
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 03:38 PM by Beetwasher
This is exactly what I said they'd do!! It's a great idea, IMO.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 04:05 PM
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13. Great Idea?
I'd say FANTASTIC idea!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 04:20 PM
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15. Superlatives Are Inadequate
To fully reflect the awesomeness of this idea! ;-)
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 05:15 PM
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21. agreed!
But I do know many that would use several expletive's.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 04:27 PM
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16. Me too
The WORLD...
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:41 PM
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12. A roving ambassador to half the world, perhaps, lol
the Clenis on a global scale - certainly might help to restore good relations with our allies around the world. And he wouldn't randomly grab Merkel's shoulders either, he knows how to be smooth...
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 04:12 PM
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14. There's nothing wrong
with the characterization of impeachment in that article. Clinton was impeached - everyone knows that.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 05:06 PM
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19. Will she use former President Bush I too?
Overall it sounds good but what did she mean when she said she believes in using former presidentS? Who could she be thinking of? Which former president do the Clintons have close ties with and consider a friend?
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 05:11 PM
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20. Yes. I'm sure she's going to give a great job to dumbya also.
Maybe to poppy too. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if she got ronnie dug up & stood him in the corner somewhere. Maybe ford too. Why not tricky dick? She can have them stuffed & sent around the world as envoys.

Or, (just a guess here) it's not a literal statement. Or (another guess) maybe she would ask Pres. Carter to do some ambassadorial-type work to help restore our tattered image.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 05:21 PM
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22. Why Carter and not their buddy George H. W. Bush?
If they are going to use any other former president it will be Bush I. He is not only their pal but he provides the added bonus of adding a bipartisan veneer to the initiative in question. It is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, sending both Clinton I and Bush I to the Middle East would be a very powerful and positive thing. The problem is that she apparently wants to use Bush I but is conveniently not mentioning it during primary season...
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 05:29 PM
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23. ???
The problem is that she apparently wants to use Bush I but is conveniently not mentioning it during primary season.... Yeah. Right. What.Ever.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 05:32 PM
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24. When President Clinton appeared on Larry King Live..
The other night, LK was pressing BC for an answer. LK, stating, "former presidents should be more involved in current politics, don't you think, it's a good idea?" Prez Clinton said, yes, I've been involved in the Tsunami Relief Fund w/B41 and Katrina. It seemed to me, Larry King had an agenda, they way he kept pushing it as a "good idea."
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 06:05 PM
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25. bill is good with other countries but, i am somewhat uncomfortable with this.
i think it is because of the whole bush and clinton thing to begin with. maybe that is why.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 06:27 PM
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26. You have to think of it
in a different way.

From the moment the Clintons entered the White House they were under attack. Congress was controlled by the Republicans. It will be a whole different story this time around. The Dems hold a Congressional majority now, which they hadn't held for over 14 yrs. I would bet the strategy is to increase Dem seats in both Houses next election cycle giving Dems a larger majority flipping the Repugs into a minority.

The only way you can hold political corruption accountable is by "dealing from strength" having the heavy hand of both Dem controlled Houses conducting investigations. As we are seeing the effects right now of Dems chasing corruption from every corner of the Bush Administration. If we are continue to be vigilant and gain a Dem presidency and continue to increase Dem power in Congress we can reverse the damage done by Bush and the Neocons.

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 06:55 PM
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27. Fucking brilliant!
President Of The World appointed ambassador.

Hil might be even more politically astute than Bill. How long before Big Dog is elected UN SecGen?
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