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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:08 PM
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The Anti-Poverty Candidate
I liked this piece from a blog post entitled The Anti-Poverty Candidate:
People who know me intimately know that I’m pretty passionate about ending poverty. I’ll get teary-eyed when I spit out sad statistics, curse efforts that increase poverty, curse when common sense solutions are ignored, and ask most politicians I meet pointed questions on poverty.......

.....I have met Wes Clark. And, yes, I asked him one of my impassioned and pointed questions on poverty. What really surprised me was that he skipped the talk about what poverty is like–sparing me details that I’m quite aware of–and jumped right into the meat of possible solutions. I’m not one to be overly impressed with famous politicians–after all, I am a couple minute walk from more than one Nobel Laureate–but I was struck by his candor and his depth of knowledge on practical solutions. We talked about community and neighborhood based financial planning programs, microcredit, fair trade policy and national cultural impediments. A far cry from “we can do better”. That he was willing to discuss some of the hurdles in addressing this issue demonstrated that he knows what he’s talking about.

I won’t enumerate or elaborate the solutions discussed right now–I’ll save that for after he announces–but I just want to mention that as a person who cares very deeply about reducing poverty, Wes Clark is my clear choice as the anti-poverty candidate. Not platitudes, but practical solutions. Not just hope, but tangible solutions.

http://un2g.ooeoyi.com/The-Anti-Poverty-Candidate/


Reminds of an interview I saw not too long after Wes announced he was running in 2003. Some military guy was being interviewed about Wes jumping into the race. He was obviously not a Democrat as he refused to even say the word in the interview. He kept referring to "that other party" and such but he knew Wes from his time in the military and he said that, much as he may disagree with him on things such as the war, he did have to say that folks shouldn't be worried about Wes not having enough experience or knowledge about certain issues. He said if Wes didn't know enough about an issue, he'd educate himself on it. And if there was a problem to be solved, he'd sure enough find a way to solve it.

That's Wes, a problem-solver. Wouldn't it be great to have a guy like that in the White House? I really do hope he does decide to join the race this time around.

And I have no idea idea how much Clark pays for his haircuts but I do know that a couple of years back, when he needed new luggage for some European trip he had to make, he went shopping for it with Gert in the mall in Arkansas. A Clarkie who was working there for the Christmas season, I think it was, saw him there and spoke to them. I wouldn't mind having a President who knew what it was like to shop for his own luggage at the local mall either. :)
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:09 PM
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1. The General is a good man
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:35 AM
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2. I really love Al Gore, and I think Edwards is a good man, BUT Wes Clark is the ONLY
person I can think of that could actually SAVE this country right now. If Wes & Al, or Wes & Edwards, or even Wes and Bill Richardson teamed up, we'd be well on the road to recovery.

He's the ONLY one I know of who could actually turn this mess around....definitely if we had both houses of congress.


:kick::kick::kick:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:10 PM
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10. My dream team would be Gore/Clark, or Gore/Obama - with Clark
as Defense Secretary and John Edwards as AG. IMAGINE how any of these guys would heal and rehabilitate whatever position into which they were placed. Our guys have IDEAS to help EVERYONE (not just the elite, wealthy few), NOT some hidden agenda (to help exclusively the elite, wealthy few).
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:09 AM
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3. The General is great on poverty. When would it be "too late" for him to enter the race and have a
realistic chance of winning the nomination?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:15 AM
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4. I've already started backing Edwards, but if Clark gets in....I'll flip flop my support...
I hope he runs!!

Both Clark and Edwards lead the way as the anti-poverty candidates IMHO.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 09:00 AM
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5. There is a poverty forum here at DU. Many in the poverty forum see Edwards as the candidate who
works hardest to make poverty elimination a top priority: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=230
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 02:36 PM
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8. Yes,
Edwards does speak out about poverty a lot and, in fact, in the blog mentioned, the author does address Edwards' concentration on the issue but I chose to make the OP about Clark and his problem-solving abilities and not a comparison between Clark and Edwards.

Interesting comment from NH writer Bernie Quigley on Clark's blog regarding the poverty issue though:

I wrote a column....a few months back when John and Elizabeth appeared here at Dartmouth College. I felt their ideas about poverty were the most naive I'd ever heard & likewise the Poverty Center in NC (our home state) has in many instances simply rehashing a lot of ideas that progressively injured poor people 30 years ago and were abandoned by the Democrats and by the country. To my surprise, I got an angry email from Elizabeth within two hours of publication citing John's "compassion." Compassion identifies problems; management solves problems. It is why I've been with General Clark since the beginning. I just sent this NYTs story about the rise of mortality in birth rate of black children to my two boys in college. I told them that as Southern people it is something that will ultimately be their problem and all solutions tried in my lifetime have failed and have even amplified the problem. To truly address these problems requires local and regional solutions I believe and entirely new approaches. But most of all: these are problems that require management solutions.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/health/22infant.html?hp

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/11851#comment-203715


"Compassion identifies problems; management solves problems." - good distinction, I think. I really would like a problem-solver in the White House this time around.

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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 02:43 PM
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9. I like 'em both. In fact, I think an Edwards/Clark or Clark/Edwards ticket would crush the Repubs
in the South.

I also agree that Clark could enter the race by Memorial Day and still have the time to get a serious campaign up and running, and that Gore could wait as long as Independence Day to enter the race.
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 02:22 PM
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7. I'm not experienced enough in these things to know that answer...
...to that but I would think we are not past the "too late" point quite yet.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 09:14 AM
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6. Obviously I'm supporting another candidate at this point, but should things go
as expected, and should Clark actually run, he is my choice, To me his overarching qualification is his undeniable competence. He is simply brilliant and chooses to use his ability to reach solutions to the problem at hand, not to turn a problem to his advantage while not fixing it.

Plus he has great cross-party and cross-cultural appeal. If he can get through the Party Power Brokers, he will win the election, but that first is a very big if.


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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:23 PM
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11. !
"He is simply brilliant and chooses to use his ability to reach solutions to the problem at hand, not to turn a problem to his advantage while not fixing it."

I can't say it any better than that:thumbsup:
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 01:59 PM
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14. agree...
That's exactly what he does....
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:55 PM
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12. I don't know much about Clark but, he seems to be a good person
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 02:01 PM
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15. Yeah, he does seem to be....
Hopefully, you'll get a chance to learn more about him as the campaign goes on....meaning I really hope he jumps in. :)
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 08:16 PM
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21. Here's some information
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 01:18 AM
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13. Kicking for the night-stalkers.
:kick:

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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 02:01 PM
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16. I would have no trouble supporting Wes Clark.
My ideal ticket would be Richardson/Clark or vice-versa. Either way, it would be a killer combo.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 07:34 PM
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17. At last! Someone writes about Clark's other ideas
I know that today and for many days to come, the emphasis in politics will reflect our country's greatest problem: foreign policy, and I love listening Wes Clark offer us his ideas for a new path, one that leads to peace. And yet, how refreshing to read him quoted on domestic issues. His thoughts are deep and always reflect what is best for the nation.

Thanks.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 12:01 AM
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18. Gore/Clark or Clark/Gore.....would kick butt!
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 04:04 PM
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19. Things will be shaken up good
when General gets in the race!!! Thanks for posting this, CarolNYC!
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 07:29 PM
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20. Thanks for the post.
:thumbsup:
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