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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 11:06 AM
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Iglasias: Rat or Victim?
This has been bothering me since I heard it. David Iglasias, as we all know, was one of the fired US Attorneys. He's saying his firing was in part due to some claim that he spent too much time away from the office (and, as it happens, in the National Guard). He has filed a complaint with some federal employee oversight group that supposedly protects government employees from firing for things like this. (No doubt many of you know the specifics better than I, but I am **certain** I'm stating the essential facts correctly.)

In any case, the guy who heads up that oversight group in a guy named Bloch, a Bush toadie. There was a thread here on DU yesterday or the day before that had some facts about the good Mr. Bloch .... and how he may well not be very trustworthy when it comes to impartiality.

Iglasias yesterday said he felt Bloch was an honest guy who he trusted to do the right thing.

Which leads to my question ....... David Iglasias: Rat or Victim?
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 11:08 AM
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1. Both/IMO
n/t
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 11:10 AM
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2. Where does the "rat" part come in?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 11:11 AM
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3. Endorsing Bloch and essentially saying whatever Bloch says is fine by him.
And the fact that toadies do what toadies do.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 11:14 AM
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4. Sometimes people say things to pre-empt others behavior
like telling a child, "now, I know you are going to be a very good boy and look after your sister because you know how much I trust you" (simplistic example).
This may be what he is doing?
I've seen it happen in the beginning of testimony before Congress - you hope the person rises to the occasion and you are encouraging them to do so. Sometimes it works.
Just a thought.

Or, he could be a bad judge of character. Who knows?

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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:42 PM
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7. that is an excellent point
Iglesias is a Bush guy (though maybe not a "Bushie") but he does appear to be a man of integrity and I pretty much trusted his assessment of Bloch. But I DO like what you say.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 11:15 AM
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5. Oh David Iglesias...
I thought you meant Julio.



Nobody should mess with Julio...or Tito Puente for that matter.

Sorry H2S.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 11:18 AM
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6. A little of both, actually
The case he was dismissed for over not rushing to media completion before Heather Wilson (R-COW) had to face another very close election was a case against the state treasurer, Vigil, a Democrat who'd succeeded a GOPer and inherited a carefully constructed web of bribes and kickbacks. He has claimed his innocence all along, undoubtedly thought that was the way to run the office since it had always been run that way before. As usual, it only became illegal when a Democrat did it, and Iglesias was only too happy to comply with his crucifixion.

He's also a victim, since his refusal to rush the case meant it actually went forward instead of being dismissed for lack of evidence, and was attacked for not turning it into a campaign issue.

Iglesias is no choirboy. He was doing everything Rove wanted him to do, but he was trying to do it right. He was dismissed for trying to do it right.

There are no men in white hats in this drama. Vigil broke the law, even if he was gullible enough to believe he hadn't. Iglesias was a Rove yesman who thought a dirty job should be done right. Domenici and Wilson, as close as stink on shit, wanted him out because he failed to proceed to smear all Democrats in a timely manner. There is nothing low enough to describe either Rove or Gonzales.
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