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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 11:42 AM
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The Democratic Debate: Winners and Losers
WP political blog, "The Fix," by Chris Cillizza
04/27/2007
The Democratic Debate: Winners and Losers

....since The Fix is among the biggest political junkies out there, we were watching very closely to determine who may gain/lose some insider buzz or momentum from last night's gathering. Below you'll find our winners and losers from the debate. These are of course subjective and meant to start a conversation....

WINNERS

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.): Clinton entered the debate with high expectations and managed to meet them -- not an easy task. She was informed, concise and under control at all times. She showed her tough side when asked what she would do in the event of simultaneous terrorist attacks against two American cities -- a question Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) initially muffed before going back to it later -- and managed to avoid any real confrontation over her refusal to apologize for her vote in favor of the use of force resolution. Clinton also got several breaks: her "elephant in the room" question was on why Republicans want to run against her next November (a hanging curveball that she belted), she was never the first candidate forced to answer one of the tougher questions (as Obama was on the terrorist attacks query), and she was given the chance to rebut several comments made by other candidates that seemed far from direct attacks on her. While Clinton didn't determine the format of the debate, she definitely benefited from it.

Sen. Joe Biden (Del.): Every debate has a "moment." Last night's came courtesy of Biden. Asked by moderator Brian Williams whether he could "reassure voters in this country that you would have the discipline you would need on the world stage," Biden responded simply: "Yes." The comment drew laughs throughout the room (and in the press filing center as well) and effectively silenced Biden critics who argue he is incapable of answering any question without a 10-minute speech. That moment symbolized Biden's evening. He was regularly one of the more quotable candidates on stage, an important trait in the TV age, and made sure voters knew of his long experience on issues both foreign and domestic. He even managed to work in a reference to his efforts to keep Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork from the bench -- a sure winner in the eyes of liberal Democrats who loathe Bork....

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LOSERS

Gov. Bill Richardson (N.M.): We've noted previously on The Fix that Richardson's occasional tendency to appear more like a stand-up comic than a candidate for president complicates his chances of being taken seriously in the primary process. And, to his credit last night, Richardson was serious -- almost too serious. Richardson regularly went over the allotted time for his answers, forcing Williams to cut him off in mid-sentence often. The New Mexico Governor also appeared uncomfortable at times on the stage, a visual impression heightened by the fact that his podium was off to one side of the stage. In the post-debate spin room Richardson was more himself -- a gregarious, hands-on charmer with a detailed knowledge of what it takes to make government work. But, most people didn't get to see that side of him. Richardson came into the debate as the candidate most likely to eventually join Edwards, Clinton and Obama in the top tier. Maybe. But his performance didn't get him any closer to that goal.

Former Sen. Mike Gravel (Alaska): People don't like angry in their presidential candidates. And, "angry" typified Gravel's performance last night. Gravel called Biden "arrogant", said he felt like a "potted plant" because of the lack of questions directed to him. Taking a cue from Ronald Reagan, Gravel also said that he would forgive the other candidates on stage for their youth and inexperience. Last time we checked Gravel was an asterisk in any and all polling. Don't be shocked if this is the only debate Gravel is asked to participate in....

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/?hpid=topnews
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 11:51 AM
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1. Biden and Hillary did win some points last night
Edited on Fri Apr-27-07 11:53 AM by dmordue
I also liked Edwards and Obama. However, Biden gets the best quote for the night. I also think he is on the money with his views on Iraq.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 11:53 AM
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2. I have to agree Clinton composed herself well and so did Biden.
I thought Clinton was good but, it does not make me want to vote for her. I am ready to say goodbye permanently to bushes and clintons. We need a change and a new era.
biden was fun.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 12:17 PM
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3. The "bushes and clintons" are not a problem
Bush Jr. has caused irreparable harm to the world. However, that has absolutely no bearing on whether President Clinton's wife should be President.

You are going to have to come up with better arguements to support your candidate in your avatar.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 12:38 PM
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4. yes
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 12:40 PM
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5. Shocking.
Chris Cillizza called Hillary the winner? I'm shocked! Shocked!!!:wow: :eyes:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 12:59 PM
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7. Hi, BlueDog! Welcome to DU. Actually, I agree with Cillizza.
I'm not a supporter, but I thought Hill aced the debate.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 12:43 PM
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6. Gravel wasn't a 'loser.' He was what he intended to be.
He was a gadfly, who got his say.

He was over the top, and very enjoyable.

And as was said of him, he made Kucinich look moderate.
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