Can't get thru to Congress - phones are completely busy

[peacebird]

So WHO is organizing a call in about the Iraq War funding bill? Because I see nothing about it here...? Are the freepers pressuring the Dems to cave further? Or are WE pressuring congress to go back to the original language (leaving out everything except Iraq issues) and let Bush veto again?

:wtf:

It's been a LONG TIME since I couldn't get through to anyone on the hill.... Tried Warner, Webb, Pelosi, Reid...

[EST]

1. Have you cruised any of the right wing sites?

I haven't heard of anything, but I don't go around a lot more than DU and Firedoglake.

[peacebird]

2. my blood pressure won't allow it... sorry....

[EST]

4. Ahhhh--got it!

It's the immigration bill. The powers that be don't understand that the nation is in a lot worse shape, financially, than the administration is trying to force public opinion to conform to. There are few adequate jobs available and there is a searing frustration among the populace. The most obvious target, rightly or wrongly, is the people who are driving down wages and scarfing up the jobs available, low paying though they are.

The wingers, and not a few of the more thoughtful citizens, are really, really angry at the latest sellout by the congress and the administration. They are burning the phones down with their disagreement and fury. The democrats, interestingly, are kind of getting a pass on the issue of illegal immigration and amnesty, because they are expected to stand up for the immigres as political calculus or as a humanitarian issue, but the pukes are catching hell.

[primative1]

3. Could be the immigration thing ...

People are ghetting worked up about a lot of different topics all at once ...

[unlawflcombatnt]

7. The Immigration Sell-Out

The latest illegal immigrant amnesty/open borders fiasco is certainly getting me worked up.

The latest Senate Amnesty & Open Borders scam is another example of how our Senate has become nothing but a chamber of cheap labor advocating Corporate shills. The latest "compromise" plan entails granting immediate amnesty to 12 million illegal immigrant workers, in addition to providing for 400,000 additional "guest" workers. (See the Yahoo News Story describing how the Senate is selling out American workers to help Corporate America keep wages down.

This latest plan will award new Z-visas immediately to all illegal immigrants already here, thus making their status legal. And thus making it legal for employers to hire them, instead of American workers. The highly touted fines and touch-back provisions only apply to those seeking citizenship. But if those newly amnestisized illegal immigrants don't choose to become legal citizens, they could still remain in the United States and work legally.

This plan would essentially end ALL prosecution of employers hiring illegal immigrants, because all of the previously illegal immigrants would now become LEGAL Z-visa holders. As such, their hiring by employers (instead of Americans) would be completely legal.

How in the hell can this be called a "compromise"? This simply makes all illegal employers and illegal immigrants legal, in one fell swoop.

This is blatant, unmitigated AMNESTY, by any definition. Lawbreaking illegal immigrant workers (and employers) will suddenly become legal, without paying ANY penalty. (Again, it's only when applying for citizenship that fines and "touch-backs" apply.) Thus our legal workforce will instantly be expanded by 12 million workers.

Just exactly what American workers need with stagnant real wages, rising consumer debt, and a sinking economy.

Economic Populist Forum

[calimary]

5. Did you try the TOLL FREE numbers?

Check my sig line below.

[peacebird]

6. thanks - I usually call the direct line (202) but toll free worked today!

[calimary]

9. Good! That's what they're here for.

Good work stepping up to the plate like that! BTW - any time you do, dare I suggest that YOU remind whoever you're calling to support IMPEACHMENT. Even if they don't, they need it shoved in their faces again and again and again and again and again and again and again and... After all, what's wrong with "kind of catapulting the propaganda" toward something genuinely worthwhile for a change? I ALWAYS plant that seed, every time I call ANYBODY on Capitol Hill. Whether I think they're open to it or not.

:toast:

[ribrepin]

8. Probably immigration....Our friends across the aisle are really pissed

I heard on Ed Schultz today that we owe 2 trillion to Mexico. If true, I can hardly wait for "Our Friends across the aisle":sarcasm: to get a hold of the fact that the Iraq war has forced us to borrow money from Mexico and now we can't close our border because of it.

We won't need to lift a finger to impeach. They will march on the White House and remove the bastard themselves.

[calimary]

10. Hey, whatever works.

I can be just as machiavellian as the next guy. WHATEVER works.