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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:55 AM
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Iowa: Gore 44% Kerry 23% Clark 20% Sharpton 6% - should get in the race
Here are bits of a few different articles on the May 2007 Iowa Poll in which Edwards took 29%, Obama 23%, Clinton 21%, Richardson 10%.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070520/NEWS/305200004


A new Des Moines Register poll suggests that Iowans likely to participate in the January caucuses aren’t entirely satisfied with the list of declared candidates.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070520/NEWS/305200007/-1/iowapoll07


Here is the question asked:

(Asked of Democratic caucus-goers) I’m going to mention some people who are not currently running for president. For each, please tell me if you would like to see them get into the race, or not.

Retired General Wesley Clark. Former Vice-President Al Gore. Massachusetts Senator John Kerry. The Reverend Al Sharpton.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070519/NEWS/70519025


The answer: Gore 44% Kerry 23% Clark 20% Sharpton 6%


The poll showed foreign affairs at the top of concerns, with national security equal to economy and jobs:

For Iowa Democrats, the war in Iraq is the paramount issue in choosing a presidential nominee.

-snip

Among likely Democratic caucus participants, 46 percent rate the conflict in Iraq an extremely important issue.

Ranked second, at 37 percent, is relationships with other countries — an issue that Democrat caucusgoers clearly see as intertwined with Iraq and the foreign policy of Republican President George W. Bush.

-snip

Thirty-seven percent of likely Democratic caucus participants rate a candidate’s ability to work well with other world leaders as extremely important, making that the top-ranked item on a poll list of 13 items.

-snip

The centrality of Iraq as an issue for Democrats shows up in still another part of the poll. Sixty percent of likely caucusgoers say they are more likely to support a presidential candidate who has been a longtime opponent of the war.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070520/NEWS/305200003


This is an interesting section of the poll: "What makes you more likely vote for a candidate?"

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070520/NEWS/305200009


No surprise Gore is that high at this time. Twenty percent for Clark rather surprised me in Iowa as he skipped it last time. When you look at the most prominent concerns of Iowans, Gore, Kerry and Clark fit in as welcome additions to the field.





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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:06 AM
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1. Very interesting
that Gore, Kerry and Clark have a following there.

Hope at least one of them gets in the race ... or at the very least all three will have roles in the next DEM admin in 2008!
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:29 AM
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2. Two of those guys have already been elected President.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:43 AM
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8. You have that right! n/t
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:05 AM
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15. Three war veterans
I don't know if it means anything, but it is a commonality. The top concern of 46% is war and 34% say they are more likely to vote for a veteran. Only 8% say they woud be unlikely to vote for a war veteran. 60% prefer a longtime opponent of the war.

Interesting, anyways.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 01:23 PM
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32. That's really interesting n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:23 AM
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11. If DNC secured election process with 1/2 the devotion the RNC spent subverting
it all those years, Gore would be in his 6th year and Kerry would be challenging Lieberman right now for the primary.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:11 AM
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16. Hug me.
That is so depressing to think about some days.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:30 PM
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33. True. Too bad they dropped the ball afterwards and now keep mum about it.
yet - one of them wants another vote from me - cuz he treated my last one so damn well!:puke:
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:36 PM
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34. Too bad we can't target the Dems that have been mum about it
rather than bitching about the ones that are working their asses off to make the world/country better.

And BTW, they have not been mum about it. They have made statements about it.

I am glad you have PERFECT candidate that will get your vote. What will you do if he/she doesn't do what you demand of him/her.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:22 PM
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44. What do you mean?
Kerry dropped out and Gore hasn't declared. I would really hope if Gore does declare, that you would give him your vote.

Gore fought but our Congress and Senate did NOT back him up. Did you ever see the scene from Farenheit 911 where they refused to stand up during the hearing to stop the appointment of *?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:31 AM
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3. "Poll: Many would like Al Gore, Condoleezza Rice to run "
Poll: Many would like Al Gore, Condoleezza Rice to run

By JONATHAN ROOS
REGISTER STAFF WRITER
Copyright 2007, Des Moines Register and Tribune Company
May 20, 2007
1 Comment

Al Gore, many Iowa Democrats want you to join the presidential race.

Condoleezza Rice, Newt Gingrich and Fred Thompson, many Iowa Republicans would like you to throw your hats in the ring as well.

A new Des Moines Register poll suggests that Iowans likely to participate in the January caucuses aren’t entirely satisfied with the list of declared candidates.



Forty-four percent of likely Democratic caucus participants say they’d like to see the race include Gore, the former vice president who lost by a whisker to George W. Bush in the 2000 presidential election.

Gore said last week he has “fallen out of love with politics” but has not completely ruled out running again.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20070520/news/305200007&GID=u5OHt4hNHlx5kvMzRm5k565skOldhCWWomTM7ZVCgDE%3D
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:38 AM
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4. More people want Newt and Thompson to run than Gore
:P
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:41 AM
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6. More people want Gore to run than Edwards
:P
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:32 AM
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12. The question wasn't "would you vote for..?" It was "would you like them to run?"
Edited on Tue May-22-07 08:33 AM by 1932
and since 41% send no/not sure to all those Democrats, obviously people picked more than one of them. If you asked "would you vote for...?" the response would have been very different.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:59 AM
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14. I know, I was teasing
Like this :P
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:43 AM
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18. I don't get the tease
I really don't.

Isn't a tease supposed to be funny?

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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:14 AM
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22. Oh, for cryin out loud...
I thought it was funny. It wasn't cruel, it wasn't persecution, it was a jab between supporters. Sometimes making light of an issue is the best thing for everyone.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:44 PM
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40. please tell me how I'm supposed to know the difference
between an insulting 'jab between supporters', and an outraged insult to my candidate.

let's be real here.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:41 AM
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17. give it a rest
that is not at all what the question asked, and you know it. You know that's not what the poll means. If you don't, or if you do...this is getting absurd.

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:04 AM
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19. Why don't *you* give it a rest?
Grow some skin, for crissake.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:38 PM
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35. lol.

my comment on the thread:

I think its a bad sign when republicans are more excited about their candidates than I am about the current Democratic candidates, just a personal observation.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:43 PM
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39. got plenty, thanks
just don't think some things are as funny as you apparently do.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:47 PM
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41. I'm putting you on Ignore, venable
Enough of you.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:26 PM
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42. Ciao - ciao
n/t
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:40 AM
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5. Strongest contingent is for Gore.... hmmmm

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:42 AM
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7. Reminder: Al will be on Larry King tonight the whole hour nt
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:56 AM
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9. Looking forward to it!
:kick:
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:56 AM
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10. delete-duplicate post
Edited on Tue May-22-07 07:57 AM by DesertRat
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:49 AM
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13. Thanks. I'll set my DVR for stun! :) n/t
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:08 AM
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20. Gallupoll numbers - about half way down the article
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:15 AM
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23. What's the connection you are making?
The thread is about an Iowa poll and the Gallup is a national poll.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:13 AM
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21. Or, in other words, 56% would like him not to?

I think the topic is somewhat misleading.

I think that Al Gore would have made a perfectly good candidate if he'd run earlier, but that there are lots of other perfectly good candidates too.

I think that it is now too late for him to do so successfully.

I think that there is now virtually no chance of him doing so.

I think that he probably never wanted to do so, and can do all sorts of good without doing so.

I think that his would-be supporters would be better off deciding which of the potentially feasible candidates they like most, and supporting them instead, rather than spending energy encouraging Gore to run.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:19 AM
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25. You're welcome to think what you think
But the topic is in no way misleading. It's about specific part of a poll. It shows the polling results. There is a discussion going on among some in the thread related to it. Others prefer to turn the thread off its rails.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:19 AM
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24. Interesting poll...
Kerry most likely did poorly because no one likes a loser (and yeah, yeah, he won already...im just sayin).

Sharpton has never really had a lot of support.

Gore can be somewhat polarizing, some don't forgive his actions after election 2000, some still buy into the "stiff" meme.. I also think some supporters of current candidates would say 'no' to whether he should run. Given all that, those are pretty good numbers for him.

Clark getting 20% is pretty good considering most people in Iowa haven't a clue who he is. I've noticed that those that know him tend to like what he is doing, but for the most part I dont think common Iowans have ever heard of the guy.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:47 AM
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28. There's a high MOE for the full sample
I don't know what the narrower one would be. Clark and Kerry are in there togther, though. Since Kerry won the last time and obviously everybody does know him well, while Clark didn't campaign in the state, it seems Iowans may be getting more of Clark than we might expect. Maybe Fox News?
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:54 AM
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29. Perhaps.
Clark also campaigned here for the 2006 elections, I shouldn't leave that out. He also spoke at a few fundraisers for Labor, etc.

Or MAYBE it's just that me and the dozen other diehard Clark supporters are really getting our message out there! Ha ha..I can dream, right?
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:23 AM
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26. This race has a long way to go.
Apparently, Iowans haven't settled yet:

Yepsen: Polls send wake-up calls to national front-runners


....the polls show 69 percent of the Democrats and 77 percent of the Republicans say they could be persuaded to change their minds. That should give hope to all the candidates. This race has a long way to go.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070522/OPINION01/705220365
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:27 AM
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27. Thanks
I hadn't seen that today

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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:58 AM
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30. I think that is pretty accurate..
I participated in a 30-member focus group a few weeks ago, all 30 were active dems in my county (we have the 2nd largest local Dem Party). There were only a handful at best that felt their decision at this point was "firm", and more than half said that they were still waiting on unannounced candidates.

I know this doesn't jive with some of the polling data I've seen, but a lot of these 30 were pretty influential locally.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:50 AM
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31. well.......
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:39 PM
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36. Interesting reading
Not just the questions on the pols not running, but on all of their questions.

Thanks for posting :)
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DemDem07 Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:30 PM
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37. Interesting
Thank you for posting that!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:40 PM
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38. I'm not surprised.
Interesting that Clark gets 20%, that's surprising to me. I really didn't think he'd get that high a percent.

Hope he notices:-)
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:59 PM
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43. VERY interesting.
Wow, so average Americans in Iowa are unhappy with the "candidates" being shoved down their throat by the Democratic power establishment? Say it ain't so! :sarcasm:

And here I thought no one liked John Kerry. :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

In the abscence of Kerry entering the race - which he won't - either a Gore or a Clark run would be fantastic by me.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:29 PM
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45. Me too n/t
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