GOP Debate - war was good! Saddam's fault! Anyone watching?

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Just started on CNN at 7

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1. McCain is asked what's the next step in the war?(if Petreus says in September

all's well)...
blah, blah --follow us home....Not Bush's war - but Clinton's war (huh???)

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2. I'm switching back and forth

Waiting for Ron Paul to do his "skunk at the teaparty" act going

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3. McCain : we have to divide bedrooms? (between shia and sunnis)

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4. Ron Paul: mistake to go, mistake to stay - the only applause!

They have NH voters in the audience

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5. It's St Raygun's birthday!

[Kat45]

97. I heard that. And the man was wrong, it is not his birthday.

Raygun's birthday is February 6. I remember it because I consider that day an aberration in the Aquarian cycle, for that and other reasons. Who was the guy who didn't even have his hero's birthday correct? (I forget who said it.)

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99. Huckabee nt

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6. Was W right to open dialogue with Iran? Most are unsure of that.

Duncan Hunter - preemptive war, I would authorize nukes.

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7. Rudy: Dems are back in the 90's. We're fighting with nukes now!

JFK airpot! Warr on terra - not a bumpersticker -!

[JenniferJuniper]

8. Who was it that just said it's Reagan's

birthday today? I'm listening, not watching.

Jeez, even I know he was born in January. These fools just make stuff up out of the clear blue to bring up The Glorious B Actor's name.

Guys, if he's all you've got, you ain't got much.

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11. Watching - but can't tell them apart - sorry

[JenniferJuniper]

12. LOL..

Rich white right-wing guys all sound the same to me also.

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9. Romney - nukes options - on the table! (all were itching to nuke)

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10. This is the story of the GOP debate: black and white, magical thinking. The end.

As Jon Stewart said, the world these guys want to lead doesn't exist.

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13. Tancredo: "you've been called a member of the know nothing wing of the GOP"

(Judd & gregg something were quoted)
Rants against immigrants now. Second applause of the evening

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14. Shorter Tancredo: speak English or its the end of the world nt.

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15. Rudy: ID card for the damn furriners. (no applause)

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16. Romney - asked to answer McCain attack - demures - "C Visa" bad.

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17. Romney lied on the first question...

Romney said Saddam didn't cooperate with inspectors, and if he HAD, we would've seen he didn't have WMD and wouldn't have invaded.

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19. blatantly. Didn't have time to write about it.

[jenmito]

24. That's what I'm here for...

I guess. :)

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18. McCain agrees with John Gregg (the "know nothing" author - a senator)

Defends the bill, attacks Romney. Keeps saying 'my friend" while attacking Romney

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20. Rudy belts another 9.11"! on immigration

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21. Hunter: immigrants have cushy jobs - meat packers!

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22. Brownback: no citizenship for the damn furriners!

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23. Some of us in the Pacific time zone are still at work

It's 4:33 PM here. I have either an hour to go, or 2 minutes after the boss leaves, whichever comes first.

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28. Make sure you watch the beginning - on the war. the rest is boring.

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25. Tommy Thompson: secure the border! No amnesty! This bill is an amnesty!

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26. Ron Paul: supported the fence bill. No need with Canada.

We subsidize immigrants by rewarding it.(hospitals, education)

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27. English as official language" All - mccain mentions native Americans.

Still with the "my friends"

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29. Gillmore "Rudy McRomeyson" - the candidate. What about Fred Thompson?

Tommy Thompson: any Thompson welcome.

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30. Wolfie throws a catholic bishop on abortion at Rudy...light buzzes - hillarity

ensues- buzzing persists. Rudy tries to maintain his vague position against the buzzing...

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31. Romney - proud I became pro-life, traditional marriage...blah, blah...

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32. Governor who's minister on evolution - starts quoting the Bible

I believe in God! A bit backpedaling - I don't know how long creation took...
Others weclome to believe the primates story

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33. Brownback on evolution: there's a God, was involved, i dunno how (backpeddling too?)

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34. McCain: should creationism be taught along with evolution? "Up to school boards"

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35. Romney on mormonism - quotes JFK - "not Catholic but American"

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36. Romney _ church&state - states should make these laws - constitution says

not at federal level Roe vs Wade ruined it for the whole country

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37. Rudy wants a big Eisenhower/JFK type project to make us oil independent

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38. McCain: oil company should reinvest profits in nuclear power which is da bomb!

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39. Ron paul - W's energy bill - did the oil company need subsidies from government?

No need subsidies, plus foreign policy designed to protect oil company

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40. Ron Paul: is it time to end don't ask, don't tell? "It's a good policy"

Individual responsibility/rights' Applause.

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41. Rudy - on the firing of Arabic gay translators - "not a good time to deal with it"

Powell, during Clinton did this..."

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42. Romney _ you used to say you wanted gays to serve openly...

I agree with Rudy - war time - no time to change policy"

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43. McCain: greatest military - not enough of them"

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44. How would you use W in your administration? Tommy: lecture cicuit, not UN

A public service dedicated family

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45. Brownback - would make W do what Poppy has been doing (and Clinton didn't)

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46. Tancredo - disappointed in W - NLCB, immigration - tell W go away - applause

Started by quoting Rove: "if you don't support W, don't darken my doorstep" "I would tell W same thing Rove told me"

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47. Huckabee - what happened to GOP? "We lost credibility - katrina, immigration

handling of war...

[Ethelk2044]

48. I am watching

but I am not buying.

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49. Hunter: Libby sentence good? "I would pardon him" Bring back raygun democrats

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50. Pardon Libby? All "No". Rudy - excessive punishment - consider pardon

no underlying crime involved

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51. Romney slaams Fitz,(abuse of prosecutorial authority) would pardon

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52. Half time - part 2 with voter participation in a few minutes.

Candi - mellow debate, Mccain good on immigration

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53. I'm afraid to turn it on......

might have nightmares tonight! LOL!

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94. Actually it was more entertaining than anything....

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54. Audience question - lost a brother in Iraq - what would you do to bring them home?

Hunter - my son is serving - it's worth it! We need to stand up the Iraqi army until we can go

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55. Brownback - I'll have a bill - 3 stages solution

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56. McCain - war badly mismanaged - sacrifices that were not necessary because of that

(wait for an apology for this one)

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57. Other question: Iraq - what will we do to have a stable gov. in Iraq? Ron paul

We had 4 years to do that. Just go home.

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58. Rudy: your sacrifice - the reason we're safe now (are we? yeay!)

We have a responsibility of nation building - after we brilliantly overthrew Saddam (we were GREAT at that!)

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59. Thank You The Count....

For some reason I knew you'd be watching :toast:

As for me, watching CNN having an orgasm, no thanks :evilgrin:

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95. heh, heh - I wanted to see Rudy fall on his face - missed his last show

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60. Question for Gilmore: conservatives can be for conservation?

He rambles...

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61. Tancredo - Wolf takes him back to environment - nothing anti-conservative

with that.

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62. Prescription drugs - why are they cheaper abroad? Would you change?

Rudy: tax deduction to buy insurance...Dems want socialize medicine - that would be expensive. Only free market medicine.

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63. Hunter: my father buys abroad

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64. blogger at gather.com - health care?

One of them (governor - Gilmore?): educate public about tobacco, obesity

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65. Romney asked to defend mass system to conservatibes who say it's big government

"personal responsibility"

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66. What's the most pressing moral question in this country? Hucabee: "life"(pro)

And we do care beyond the womb too, so there! Not like evil tarraists who put bombs on their kids

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67. Rudy: freedoms that come from God - religion, press, vote - we have to spread

like St Raygun did. We are now friends with japan, Vietnam, germany - cuz we're so damn godly

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68. Ron Paul: "the acceptance that we promote preemptive war" - and tonight

even preemptive nuclear war on Iran - big applause

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69. Brownback -pro-life - so Rudy is out! (we can't nominate someone who isn't)

Would you support Rudy if nominated? I would, but we won't nominate - principles!

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70. Question for Romney - flip-flop -if English official - why have ads in Spanish?

Romney loves immigrants - hopes they vote for him(?????!!!how Mitt?)

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71. Tancredo: I wouldn't advertise in Spanish. Bad Clinton had exec orders in many

languages!!!

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72. McCain babbles some Spanish words - hispanic names on war memorials

Let's from time to time remember that these are God's children...

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73. How is your position different from W - avoid future defeat?

mcCain - spending - earmarking - corruption - he'd veto pork

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74. Rudy would establish accountability

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75. Romney: vision, future like Raygun

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76. Gillmore - healthcare, spending

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77. Hunter: W governed as a liberal

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78. Ron paul: wars, policing internationally, nation building - NO!

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79. Duncan - family...they all avoid "Bush biggest mistake" from Wolfie

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80. Question: what's it mean being "murkan?" Tancredo: stop immigration!

(question was immigration related)

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81. Huckabee: some people we should allow to come legally - scientists and such

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82. Rudy disagrees with Tancredo - quotes Lincoln - better lives for themselves...

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83. McCain also grandstanding on being "murkan" quotes Raygun

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84. Bring back moderates? Independents? Gilmore: nah, Conservative is good enough for all

grandstanding...

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85. Duncan: should we imitate Ahnold and seek consensus? NOOOOO!

he lists the traitors who talked to dems...

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86. Romney: Raygun rules! (stool + optimism)

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88. Rudy" nominate me! offensive on terra - not like pussies dems

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89. Mccain - also islamic extremism - good vs evil

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87. They all truly are uninspirational, homophobic, hypocritical bigots except for Paul

Between lying through their teeth and out-jingoizing each other withe usual claptrap that would make Goldwater roll over in his grave, they truly are the reason I could NEVER be a Republican.

They are shameful. Using immigration and the so-called War on Terror combined with a touch of theocratic blindness, they prove once and again that they are heartless bastards.

They all know that they are going to get their asses handed to them in 2008, thanks to sucking on the gonads of the Bush administration.

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90. Paul was quite unhinged in his non-war answers (wall, Roe vsWade, states & religion)

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92. Ron Paul is definitely an enigma

A "libertarian" who is anti-choice is NOT a libertarian. I just like how he ruffles their chickenhawk feathers, aside from McAin't...

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93. Also against openly gay in the army and against separation church state

he wants a pre- "inherit the wind" states rights regulation of teaching creationism.

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91. For my last post: don't miss # 46 - kinda interesting from Tancredo - hates W/Rove

[IndianaGreen]

96. No, I didn't watch it, but thank you very much for the updates.

I don't have enough MAALOX to watch those losers.

[Kat45]

98. And they all would pardon Libby!!!

Most of them outright said it, the rest pretty much hinted that they would. One even had the audacity to compare what he got for perjury to what Clinton got! Lying about a blow job compared to lying in relation to outing a covert agent? These men are un-fucking-real! And this applies to everything they said, with the exception of some of Ron Paul's comments. They were horrible and the things they want to do are awful. Lots of cognitive dissonance as well. ANd they wouldn't shut up: they continually went beyond their allotted time. The Democratic candidates didn't do that.